EVE General Discussion

CCP Fozzie at Fanfest in the ship Balancing section got into talking about future possible T3 ships and said and I am paraphrasing that "the possible designs may not be and probably won't be frigates or Battleships."

This only leave's 2 other sub-cap ship classes Battlecruisers and Destroyers which actually when I think about it would be awesome, tbh it will probably be battlecruisers considering there is only 1 tech 2 destroyer and its a interdictor which it would make sense for them to simply make a T2 attack/combat Destroyers at least before making a T3 destroyer.

So my money would be on a T3 Battlecruiser which is a little OP if the second lot of T3's are going to be anything like the first lot in my opinion and personally I would proffer a T3 destroyer but I just can't see it.

What do you think a T3 BC/Destroyer would be like?
Which would you proffer?
Or as Anna Karhunen pointed out could it be an industrial T3?
Do you want any more T3 ships at all?

T3 Destroyer would be a bit to expensive i think.

I would wish me a T3 BC.

Neither. I would like to have Tech 3 industrials. One hull, which you could convert with different subsystems to:
1) Hauler
2) Blockade Runner
3) Q-ship
4) Merchant carrier (maybe 1 fighter in it... or drones. Not sure which way would be best)
5) Give it limited jump capability
6) Miner
7) Salvager

Obviously, it would not be as good as dedicated ships in stuff like mining, or so forth, but it would have greater flexibility.

If T3 frigs and BSes are out of the picture (which they should be until they get the cruisers under control), the prospects for the mid-way classes — already being close to cruisers — is pretty much zilch.

There's no niche for them anyway.

It's probably not a T3 combat ship. I think we can safely expect a T3 industrial or mining ship.

I don't want any more T3 ships, even though I quite like my Legion.

They're a great concept as an out of game idea, but for EVE they're terrible.

EVE used to work very well when Rock, Paper, Scissors was the very core of the ship design philosophy, as it ensures that ships have counters and FOTM, although still present, is reduced by that school of thought.

T3's are like Swiss Army Knives, and that's not a good thing, as they're either totally rubbish and you'll want to specialise to get max returns (T2 ships), or like they currently are, they're good enough that they eat into the specialist ships' niches enough to make them much more desirable over said specialist ships most of the time.

Personally, I'd like to see them (and Supercarriers) removed but that will never happen.

Tbh if your used to fighting T3's you know there standard fits and can assume with a high probability from what ships they are flying around with what to counter them with.

You see a tengu few tengus with a bunch of armor ships the odd are great that they are ECM tengus etc it just take a little more thought.

Clearly not.

I'm not sure whether you're saying that people are using T3's for suicide ganks or not, but if you are, that is a terrible idea.

At any rate, the only gift that suicide ganking got out of T3's was a softer target for people to bling, and don't forget that insurance payments were removed from those ganks around when we got those destroyers. Oh, and picking the loot up from suicide gank wrecks became quite dangerous with the new and annoying suspect flags. RIP can bait.

Oh, and if someone can coordinate a 30-man destroyer gank, they deserve to kill that for 300m.

Tech 3 Industrial got me thinking... And being bored at work over lunch, and having a few minutes to kill...

ORE Tech 3 Industrial

Propulsion Modules

• Warp while cloaked plus ability to use a CovOps cloak
• Bubble nullification
• MWD bloom reduction, warp speed bonus, sub-warp speed bonus, agility bonus

Hull and Cargo Modules

• Larger cargohold
• Ship maintenance bay
• Bonus to armor resists, and/or bonus to armor and structure repair modules

High-Power Slot Modules

• Bonus to mining lasers (NOT capable of strip miners)
• Bonus to salvagers and tractor beams.
• Bonus for weapons turrets (cap, cpu, power grid, and/or rate of fire?)

Drone Modules

• Bonus for salvager and mining drones
• Bonus for logistics drones
• Bonus for combat drones

General Modules

• Additional points for calibration, plus bonus to CPU, Power Grid, and/or Cap
• Additional high- and low-power slots, plus additional high-slot turret hardpoints
• Capable of using a warfare link module (or whatever it is that miners use for bonuses)

Go ahead and rip it apart; it took me about 10 minutes from thinking it up to typing it out (and doing those bloody markups was probably half the time).