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System specs...sigh...

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Grauff Munba
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-04-29 22:39:36 UTC
I have a decision to make, and that is:

See if my computer is worth upgrading and do it. Or just wait a couple months to get a new one. I may do both, but what I really want to know is, can I salvage my system? It is listed to be above minimum requirements but it just doesn't seem to be enough.

It's fairly old.

AMD 64 X2 4800+ dual core (2.4 GHz)
4GB DDR2 Ram
nVIDIA 7600 GT OC (256 MB)

I can up the RAM pretty easily
The Video card can only go up to a 8800GT due to it being PCIE-1.0

Right now I can play but it's a little glitchy (sometimes a lot glitchy), graphics are turned down to minimum specs, and there are no weapon effects. Really a pain to play. That's why I created this trial account, to test my system before I resubbed.

It would be about $100 to upgrade to 6GB Ram and get an 8800GT.

Do you think this will make much difference at all?

Thanks in advance!
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-04-29 23:01:24 UTC
I'd just wait and build a new one, that's pretty low-spec.

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

Grauff Munba
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-04-29 23:04:36 UTC
Or I guess alternatively I could just resub, turn my skill training on and station trade....for now
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2013-04-29 23:08:31 UTC
You can run a PCI-e 2.0 card in a PCI-e 1.0 slot.
Grauff Munba
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-04-29 23:20:33 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
You can run a PCI-e 2.0 card in a PCI-e 1.0 slot.


I read somewhere that it will fit in 1.1 but not 1.0, but I can't verify that.

Will a 2.0 in a 1.0 slot really even matter? Only half the pins would be connected right? Would it be a measurable difference?

What's my most limiting factor right now, processor, memory or GPU?

Thanks for the replies.
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-29 23:21:27 UTC
What's your mobo? Why are you using DDR2 memory?

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

Grauff Munba
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-04-29 23:25:26 UTC
Concurssi Mellenar wrote:
What's your mobo? Why are you using DDR2 memory?


I dunno my mobo, it was a best buy package deal from a few years ago HP Pavilion a6030n. It came with DDR2 so the 2 more GB I added was DDR2...oh and I'm also running Vista :(
Grauff Munba
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-04-29 23:28:15 UTC
Grauff Munba wrote:
Concurssi Mellenar wrote:
What's your mobo? Why are you using DDR2 memory?


I dunno my mobo, it was a best buy package deal from a few years ago HP Pavilion a6030n. It came with DDR2 so the 2 more GB I added was DDR2...oh and I'm also running Vista :(


Ok update. IT's an ECS mobo, and since it's Vista 32 bit, maximum allowed memory is 4GB, yuck. looks like this will be the household non-gaming PC.

Might just get a laptop but after looking at them, it's a LOT less bang for the buck.
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-04-29 23:32:43 UTC
What's your budget?

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.

Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-04-29 23:39:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Zanzbar
from what ive seen you can use a video card in an older pci-e slot without much issue. the older slots just have less bandwidth so it will likely not be a question of if it will work, but if it can run at full capacity. pci-e slots normally have way more bandwith then graphics cards of the same generation need however i am not familiar with how much bandwidth a 1.0 slot pipes as i didn't get into custom builds un till 2.0 was a standard.

also i have a secondary comp for media that runs a 8800 with 4gb ram and a quad core, and given that the eve client seems to put most the load on the gpu yours should run eve about the same. if i remember right last time i had eve on there it was able to run a smooth frame rate with graphics turned up.

also while upgrading your gpu will solve frame rate issues now it will still put you behind the curve when it comes to the hardware eve is being designed for, they are looking into dx11 technologies such as tessellation and an 8800 wouldent be able to run it simply because tessellation wasn't added to the direct x libraries till dx11 and the 8800 is dx10
Cathleia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-30 10:43:18 UTC
Don't bother upgrading your GPU with anything above GT200/AMD HD4000. Your GPU will be bottlenecked too much by your CPU to warrant such an upgraded. If you really persist on getting a new GPU anyways, only do it if you really know you're going to get the other parts very soon.
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#12 - 2013-04-30 10:59:38 UTC
Grauff Munba wrote:

Ok update. IT's an ECS mobo, and since it's Vista 32 bit, maximum allowed memory is 4GB, yuck. looks like this will be the household non-gaming PC.


Maybe someone else can confirm this, but I used to have my G13's display show the RAM% usage (back when I only ran one client) and if memory serves it would usually stay below 25% of my 16GB. I'm not sure if this changes based off of video card RAM and other factors, but 4GB might be enough for running Eve.

I also ran Eve on my 8800GT (had that card for years) which worked just fine if the settings are set appropriately.
Colimarr Riley
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-05-02 22:45:40 UTC
Interestingly enough, I have the same computer right next to me. Friend of mine wanted me to fix it but its beyond repair. Personally if you have the money I would build another computer.