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So.. Those Industrial Haulers (Mammoth, Iteron, Bestower, Badger, etc)....
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Urban Trucker
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-04-29 20:50:44 UTC
So.... didn't hear a thing about any changes CCP.....

What's up. They scheduled for Odyssey release? They not?

???

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Danni stark
#2 - 2013-04-29 20:51:34 UTC
Urban Trucker wrote:
So.... didn't hear a thing about any changes CCP.....

What's up. They scheduled for Odyssey release? They not?

???


i think i heard them mention something at fanfest about having interesting ideas for them, but that's literally it.

ideas.
nothing has been officially announced yet.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2013-04-29 20:58:07 UTC
Haulers more or less work right now so their turn on the teircide is fairly low.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#4 - 2013-04-29 20:59:14 UTC
If they have more than two roles in mind they will have to add another industrial ship to the Amarr and Caldari line.

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-04-29 20:59:36 UTC
My badger deuce needs a major buff, I'm always losing fights.

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#6 - 2013-04-29 21:03:26 UTC
I hope they're making the Hoarder the main Minmatar industrial instead of the Mammoth. Because Hoarder looks freaking awesome, best indy design of all the years.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#7 - 2013-04-29 21:09:20 UTC
I asked about them during the balancing roundtable. CCP Yerbittium (sp?) all but confirmed that they will be getting the same treatment that mining barges got. One with a large tank, one with a large cargo, and one that may be speedy.... each one trading off the other two attributes in favor of its own specialty.

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Danni stark
#8 - 2013-04-29 21:11:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Danni stark
ShahFluffers wrote:
I asked about them during the balancing roundtable. CCP Yerbittium (sp?) all but confirmed that they will be getting the same treatment that mining barges got. One with a large tank, one with a large cargo, and one that may be speedy.... each one trading off the other two attributes in favor of its own specialty.


inb4 all of them are useless except the ones with large cargo.

we already have a fast one (blockade runner)
and a tanky one (deep space transport)

and with the orca being trainable in 17 days, it beats the t1 industrials for both ehp and cargo. unless they want to give t1 ships over 230k ehp, and/or over 90k m3.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2013-04-29 21:12:18 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
I asked about them during the balancing roundtable. CCP Yerbittium (sp?) all but confirmed that they will be getting the same treatment that mining barges got. One with a large tank, one with a large cargo, and one that may be speedy.... each one trading off the other two attributes in favor of its own specialty.


Hopefully they don't do something silly like give one hauler a decent tank, decent speed and huge cargo, trading only one feature at a time for the high speed and high tank variants.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2013-04-29 21:14:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Mara Rinn wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
I asked about them during the balancing roundtable. CCP Yerbittium (sp?) all but confirmed that they will be getting the same treatment that mining barges got. One with a large tank, one with a large cargo, and one that may be speedy.... each one trading off the other two attributes in favor of its own specialty.


Hopefully they don't do something silly like give one hauler a decent tank, decent speed and huge cargo, trading only one feature at a time for the high speed and high tank variants.

Indeed.

And I think the T1 indys will all have their place. They'll be cheaper than the Orca and Blockade Runners... and lack the latter's cloaking ability.

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Danni stark
#11 - 2013-04-29 21:18:44 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
I asked about them during the balancing roundtable. CCP Yerbittium (sp?) all but confirmed that they will be getting the same treatment that mining barges got. One with a large tank, one with a large cargo, and one that may be speedy.... each one trading off the other two attributes in favor of its own specialty.


Hopefully they don't do something silly like give one hauler a decent tank, decent speed and huge cargo, trading only one feature at a time for the high speed and high tank variants.


indeed.

look at how that turned out for mining barges.

3 barges mine 80% of the ore, and the skiff/proc combined mine less than 10% of all ores.
you just end up with obviously redundant ships that fill a niche that doesn't exist.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-04-29 21:19:34 UTC
Given the changes to skill training coming up, you might look at the Orca for hauling. Blink

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Gnoshia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-04-29 21:27:09 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
I asked about them during the balancing roundtable. CCP Yerbittium (sp?) all but confirmed that they will be getting the same treatment that mining barges got. One with a large tank, one with a large cargo, and one that may be speedy.... each one trading off the other two attributes in favor of its own specialty.


inb4 all of them are useless except the ones with large cargo.

we already have a fast one (blockade runner)
and a tanky one (deep space transport)

and with the orca being trainable in 17 days, it beats the t1 industrials for both ehp and cargo. unless they want to give t1 ships over 230k ehp, and/or over 90k m3.


Who says they can't make the T2 variants perform better than their T1 counter parts?
Danni stark
#14 - 2013-04-29 21:28:53 UTC
Gnoshia wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
I asked about them during the balancing roundtable. CCP Yerbittium (sp?) all but confirmed that they will be getting the same treatment that mining barges got. One with a large tank, one with a large cargo, and one that may be speedy.... each one trading off the other two attributes in favor of its own specialty.


inb4 all of them are useless except the ones with large cargo.

we already have a fast one (blockade runner)
and a tanky one (deep space transport)

and with the orca being trainable in 17 days, it beats the t1 industrials for both ehp and cargo. unless they want to give t1 ships over 230k ehp, and/or over 90k m3.


Who says they can't make the T2 variants perform better than their T1 counter parts?


nobody says that, what's your point?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-04-29 21:35:36 UTC
Well I for one hopethe deep space transports get a turret slot.
Danni stark
#16 - 2013-04-29 21:36:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Well I for one hopethe deep space transports get a turret slot.


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Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-04-29 22:24:11 UTC
I hope they update the models as well. Flying a nose fronted tube gets boring quickly.

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Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
#18 - 2013-04-30 23:51:43 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
I hope they're making the Hoarder the main Minmatar industrial instead of the Mammoth. Because Hoarder looks freaking awesome, best indy design of all the years.



I used to think that the Hoarder was the ugly indy, though it has grown on me over time.

I still like the Mastodon the most though.
None ofthe Above
#19 - 2013-05-01 00:05:34 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
I hope they update the models as well. Flying a nose fronted tube gets boring quickly.


Traditionally rebalances have been completely independent of any hull redesigns. So wouldn't hold your breath.

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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-01 00:30:24 UTC
But the Gallente have five haulers, what are they going to do with them all?

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