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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#121 - 2011-10-31 18:07:47 UTC
keep up the good work ask ccp if they can give you a second post to work with after your first one.

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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#122 - 2011-10-31 19:44:33 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
keep up the good work ask ccp if they can give you a second post to work with after your first one.

I haven't heard of CCP inserting reserved posts retroactively, but if they can that would be fantastic. I'm asking!

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#123 - 2011-10-31 20:44:27 UTC
One thing that is going to have to be adjusted is the copy time on some of the new T2 items. Some of the new items take 30-45 days just to make a single max-run BPC (in a POS lab) to be used in invention unless the existing BPO copy times are adjusted.
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#124 - 2011-10-31 20:54:30 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
One thing that is going to have to be adjusted is the copy time on some of the new T2 items. Some of the new items take 30-45 days just to make a single max-run BPC (in a POS lab) to be used in invention unless the existing BPO copy times are adjusted.

Ooh, new items are out on Singularity? I must see this!

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#125 - 2011-10-31 21:22:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Scrapyard Bob
Iam Widdershins wrote:
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
One thing that is going to have to be adjusted is the copy time on some of the new T2 items. Some of the new items take 30-45 days just to make a single max-run BPC (in a POS lab) to be used in invention unless the existing BPO copy times are adjusted.

Ooh, new items are out on Singularity? I must see this!


Not sure yet, but was looking at copy times (per item) on the existing server. Currently patching my test client so I can look (rumor is that the new T2 recipes are on the test server).

Update: The new T2 items now have BPOs and invention tabs on the T1 items, but the copy times (per item) for a lot of them are still measured in multiple hours. Most other T2 modules have copy times on the base T1 BPO measured in a handful of minutes (up to about an hour).
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#126 - 2011-10-31 23:13:32 UTC
Iam Widdershins wrote:


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Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2011-10-31 23:23:51 UTC
tl;dr

Waiting anxiously to see the effect of the new BCs on faction warfare... Twisted More gank less tank *should* mean quicker fights and less running.
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#128 - 2011-10-31 23:31:48 UTC
Borun Tal wrote:
tl;dr

Waiting anxiously to see the effect of the new BCs on faction warfare... Twisted More gank less tank *should* mean quicker fights and less running.


Certainly the introduction of a middling-difficult ship class to fly will drive down the average duration of many engagements; they will also be big-time nanoboats with excellent range and I'm pretty sure we will be seeing a lot more mid-to-long range setups to counter them.

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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#129 - 2011-11-01 00:11:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Iam Widdershins
David Grogan wrote:
Iam Widdershins wrote:

You'd best be trolling. Suicide ganking doesn't have a very large effect on miner subscription rate, nor could suicide ganking become that prevalent, nor will the new ships necessarily be any better for suiciding. If anything they will be about as effective but cost significantly more.


bullcrap........... for one thing and even by goon's own admission the new tier 3 bc will be way better to suicide gank in.
why?
1. less cost than a bs yet same dps (tank doesnt matter a **** for suicide gankers)
2. it will fit inside an orca so easy to warp a nuetral orca on top of a miner along with the suicide ganker in a pod and pull the tier3 bc out and gank the miner
3. a bc locks alot faster than a bs does
4. a bc moves alot faster than a bs does

look at how many miners are mining in gallente and caldari space right now...............a lot lot less than it was before goons started the ganking

To appease you with what you have been saying:

The new 3TBCs are definitely very ganky, as you predicted, particularly the Tornado and Talos; I am getting a feeling that CCP is winding up to nerf insurance payouts for GCC losses in high-security space.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#130 - 2011-11-01 00:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Ahem

Updates from SISI build is now live,

You forgot to mention scalable UI and the new Font. Though I think scalable UI wasnt mentioned in the blog originally its being tested out on Sisi atm.

Racial Quaters are in this patch at least.

No nebula no noticable changes in the build yet aside from the UI being all... alien?

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Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#131 - 2011-11-01 08:00:15 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Iam Widdershins wrote:
OP and Post #42 updated with details from today's DevBlog on Hybrids, T2 ammunition changes, and Hybrid Weapon ship balancing.

POASTIGN FTAGHN


Also an update from Navigator about the Crow model. He originally posted that it was not a CCP model but corrected himself today.

CCP Navigator wrote:


CCP Atropos got in contact with me over the weekend to correct my mistake here. Apparently this was not a player created ship and was a prototype model created by our own art department.

I really do apologize for giving you guys misleading information. Someone, and I will not say who, had told me the wrong information to begin with so I am correcting this for you as it is the right thing to do.


And a link to an image of the model that I exacted from the build and rendered using the proper textures and materials from the .red file.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1110/crow.jpg



nicely done. thx.

but if you ask me, and yes i know its nowhere near the final design, its almost a bit too cartoonish.
Jarem Sothra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2011-11-01 10:40:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarem Sothra
I am a Gallente pilot who flies Caldari ships (but does wish to get further into Gallente ships skills eventually), and I can't wait to see the new Caldari T3 BC, along with the other three races. I fricking love missiles, cause they have no real downside (I don't see anyways).

Also, speaking of missiles/rockets/torpedoes, when is CCP going to make a module that will be more effective against said weaponry? Because, I got to tell ya, Defender Missiles suck. There should be a module that you plug in to the high slot that emits a scrambler to mess up a missiles' locking/guidance( think ECM Burst for missile targeting).

Also, you guys could have it that it would be more effective the higher class ship you have, like the ECM Burst (most effective placed on Battleships, pathetic on an frigate).

That's just mine, and a number of others that I talked to, opinions.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#133 - 2011-11-01 19:18:35 UTC
Caldari and Amarr ships are out.

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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#134 - 2011-11-01 21:53:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Iam Widdershins
Nova Fox wrote:
Ahem

Updates from SISI build is now live,

You forgot to mention scalable UI and the new Font. Though I think scalable UI wasnt mentioned in the blog originally its being tested out on Sisi atm.

Racial Quaters are in this patch at least.

No nebula no noticable changes in the build yet aside from the UI being all... alien?

Time to check it out!


Nova Fox wrote:
Caldari and Amarr ships are out.

Edit: I actually can't find this. Where did you see them?

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Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#135 - 2011-11-02 09:52:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tore Smith
Iam Widdershins wrote:
actually can't find this. Where did you see them?



the new dev blog video (supposedly) showed the caldari and amarr version of the new tier3 bcs. as far as i can tell, it should be the ones linked below:

http://dlamont.deviantart.com/art/Ascog-Primary-Arrangement-182202423?q=boost%3Apopular%20in%3Acontests%2F2010%2Feveonline&qo=145

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/misc/createastarship/Mentor_Battlecruiser.jpg
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
#136 - 2011-11-02 10:46:36 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Iam Widdershins wrote:


I don't know about you guys, but I look forward to reading text clearly, while looking at engine trails streaming behind my torpedo-Drake in front of a gorgeous new background, while blowing up pods and customs offices in slow motion.


I like your idea of fun. Big smile

In all seriousness, we will be publishing more info on the features/fixes/changes/etc. coming out in the winter expansion, so stay tuned.


Imptants on km is like pure sex for me...... I have made this idea 3 or 4 times in the assembly hall on the old forums under different alts, im realy glad u guys put this trough!! i will be enjoying this soo much!! many thx
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#137 - 2011-11-02 11:24:10 UTC
Tore Smith wrote:


http://dlamont.deviantart.com/art/Ascog-Primary-Arrangement-182202423?q=boost%3Apopular%20in%3Acontests%2F2010%2Feveonline&qo=145



So pretty.... SO PRETTY

NAGA #1

P.S. Amarr got the ugly one ;D

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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#138 - 2011-11-02 11:37:51 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
Tore Smith wrote:


http://dlamont.deviantart.com/art/Ascog-Primary-Arrangement-182202423?q=boost%3Apopular%20in%3Acontests%2F2010%2Feveonline&qo=145



So pretty.... SO PRETTY

NAGA #1

P.S. Amarr got the ugly one ;D

Hey now, I really liked the Mentor. It's a fitting design, both thematically and in light of the role that it is designed to fill.

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Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#139 - 2011-11-02 12:10:22 UTC
Jarem Sothra wrote:


Also, speaking of missiles/rockets/torpedoes, when is CCP going to make a module that will be more effective against said weaponry?



It's called an afterburner
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#140 - 2011-11-02 12:14:25 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
Jarem Sothra wrote:


Also, speaking of missiles/rockets/torpedoes, when is CCP going to make a module that will be more effective against said weaponry?



It's called an afterburner

Afterburners, smartbombs, defender missiles. And bombs, actually. If you continuously bomb the space between you and an active missile-spamming force you can neutralize all their missiles.

The more you know (tm).

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