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Cruise missiles tech 2 disappointment
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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#1 - 2013-04-29 12:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
Hi guys,
After waiting a lot of days to have my tech 2 cruiser missiles and fury missiles went to do my first missions.I was really disappointed the damage they dealt.Their explosion radius is terrible so the damage i deal is more than 80% lower than i did with tech 1 missiles.I'm running 2 target painters and one rigor .When i switched back to my tech 1 missiles the damage was normal.No wonder why people say they should never train for cruise missiles.I hope ccp fix this .

But when i tried precision missiles.WOW.One hit for each target and bam down(not for big ones though)

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#2 - 2013-04-29 12:52:05 UTC
You do know that cruise missiles are getting a gigantic buff with Odyssey right? Try reading the features and ideas discussion for sometimes.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#3 - 2013-04-29 12:58:01 UTC
I read something but I thought were rumors.Thank you anyway was about time ccp do something for missiles.I think it was the most unbalanced weapon of all.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2013-04-29 13:04:35 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I think it was the most unbalanced weapon of all.


You should try medium railguns.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#5 - 2013-04-29 13:11:54 UTC
T2 CMs are fine OP, there's nothing wrong with them. What ship are you using? Why are you using only 1 Rigor? You should be using 2 T2 Rigors, 1 T1 Flare and 2 TPs.

You can't really moan about the explosive radius when you've not done enough to reduce it. Just saying...

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-04-29 13:14:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Bi-Mi Lansatha
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Hi guys,
After waiting a lot of days to have my tech 2 cruiser missiles and fury missiles went to do my first missions.I was really disappointed the damage they dealt.Their explosion radius is terrible so the damage i deal is more than 80% lower than i did with tech 1 missiles.I'm running 2 target painters and one rigor .When i switched back to my tech 1 missiles the damage was normal.No wonder why people say they should never train for cruise missiles.I hope ccp fix this .

But when i tried precision missiles.WOW.One hit for each target and bam down(not for big ones though)
Three rigors or two rigors and a flare. These are your rigs... anything else is a waste.

Fury for Battleships... full damage and Fury + Painter for Battlecruisers...full damage.
Precision for Cruisers and smaller.

The people who are telling you not to train Cruise Missiles... don't know how to set-up their ships correctly.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-04-29 13:19:34 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Hi guys,
After waiting a lot of days to have my tech 2 cruiser missiles and fury missiles went to do my first missions.I was really disappointed the damage they dealt.Their explosion radius is terrible so the damage i deal is more than 80% lower than i did with tech 1 missiles.I'm running 2 target painters and one rigor .When i switched back to my tech 1 missiles the damage was normal.No wonder why people say they should never train for cruise missiles.I hope ccp fix this .

But when i tried precision missiles.WOW.One hit for each target and bam down(not for big ones though)



What where you firering?

Fury is for BS

Precisions for Elite frigates

Battle cruisers, Cruisers, destroyers and normal frigates with t1 or faction.


usual set up is with 2 rigors and a flare in the rigg slots and one or 2 tp's

and ofcourse Missile precision 5 one of the most useful missiles support skils there is.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#8 - 2013-04-29 13:33:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
I'm using a typhoon since i lost 2 ravens and one cnr .I think armor tanking works better for me.Yup when I used precisions missiles in anything smaller han a battleship did great damage.Have to learn when to switch then to fury or precision missiles then.Hope my typhoon gets the updates they told it would.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-04-29 13:57:47 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I'm using a typhoon since i lost 2 ravens and one cnr .I think armor tanking works better for me.Yup when I used precisions missiles in anything smaller han a battleship did great damage.Have to learn when to switch then to fury or precision missiles then.Hope my typhoon gets the updates they told it would.



No need to get close when using Ravens.


Micro Jump Drive -> your cruise missiles easly reach beyond your locking range
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-04-29 14:36:15 UTC
losing ships in pve

somehow im thinking it's not a cruise missile problem.

Art of Explosions
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-04-29 14:54:38 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I think it was the most unbalanced weapon of all.


You should try medium railguns.



qft



Losing ravens and CNR I sense he is doing it wrong. With medium rails....well if you find a right way to do them please share.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-04-29 15:49:14 UTC
Train Guided Missile Precision and Target navigation Prediction skills to at least 4.

Also there are implants that you can use that improve both those missile stats as well.

Slot 8 - Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision
Slot 9 - Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#13 - 2013-04-29 18:22:35 UTC
So... just out of curiosity. You are running L4s, right? Because taking a Raven (or a Typhoon) into L3s is an absolutely colossal waste, and if you're really encountering so many small ships that you're not seeing any advantage from furies....
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#14 - 2013-04-29 18:31:22 UTC
I can't imagine he lost 2 Ravens and a CNR running level 3s. I mean, that's not even possible, is it?

Oh god.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#15 - 2013-04-29 19:13:26 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
I can't imagine he lost 2 Ravens and a CNR running level 3s. I mean, that's not even possible, is it?


Well, technically.... Though I was more thinking along the lines of getting burned in L4s to the tune of 2 Ravens and a CNR and stepping back down to L3s to work out the kinks in a new ship. Which, you know, in and of itself isn't a terrible idea, it's just that those large missile ships dramatically underperform there.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#16 - 2013-04-30 10:46:01 UTC
I lost ravens in level 4s cause i was warp scrampled and received huge amounts of damage.Anyway my typhoon works fine since i'm trained in turrets also.With 2 target painters and one rigor and precision missiles the damage isn't bad.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Nad'x Hapax
Hapaxa
#17 - 2013-04-30 11:20:36 UTC
U also need aggro management to altest 4
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-04-30 13:47:27 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I think it was the most unbalanced weapon of all.


You should try medium railguns.



qft



Losing ravens and CNR I sense he is doing it wrong. With medium rails....well if you find a right way to do them please share.



whats wrong with them exactly?

Besides most ships with bonuses are better off getting close and deal extra damage with blasters

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-04-30 13:58:59 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I lost ravens in level 4s cause i was warp scrampled and received huge amounts of damage.Anyway my typhoon works fine since i'm trained in turrets also.With 2 target painters and one rigor and precision missiles the damage isn't bad.


This is either:

A: drone skills problem
B: mission knowledge problem
C: skill problem.

or all 3.

Art of Explosions
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#20 - 2013-04-30 14:52:09 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Hi guys,
After waiting a lot of days to have my tech 2 cruiser missiles and fury missiles went to do my first missions.I was really disappointed the damage they dealt.Their explosion radius is terrible so the damage i deal is more than 80% lower than i did with tech 1 missiles.I'm running 2 target painters and one rigor .When i switched back to my tech 1 missiles the damage was normal.No wonder why people say they should never train for cruise missiles.I hope ccp fix this .

But when i tried precision missiles.WOW.One hit for each target and bam down(not for big ones though)


Try them on battleship rats. Stop wasting your Raven on level 3 missions.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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