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Krakhen
Praetors of Orpheus
#21 - 2013-04-29 12:50:44 UTC
Star Citizen looks ok but it's a dog fighting game nothing more. Sure you can have a merchant career but it's still using only a small ship. I'm still going to see what comes out of this project but, as mentionned before, it cannot be compared to eve.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2013-04-29 12:56:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Welcome to Eve and the Eve forums Harry. And congratulations on successfully stealthing a bad idea thread as a new player thread. That's tough to do, and yet you have created this bad idea that is being treated as a welcome to eve. I shall have to study your technique.

Harry Forever wrote:
EDIT for space... I'm not a fan of crowd funding either, it feels like nobody wanted to invest the money in the first place


Crowd funding pulls the power to create from those who have accumulated vast quantities of money to those who actually create. The products created by a few big investors typically follow a pattern or formula that has in the past resulted in good returns. Whereas the products created through crowd funding are what people want to see.

I engage in crowdfunding, I enjoy the process, and I am actually somebody =-)

Your idea about joystick separate server load Eve, that will not get crowd funded.

Come to think of it, it is very unlikely that it will get funded at all.


after your first line i stopped reading, try again when you upgraded your social skill, thanks

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Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#23 - 2013-04-29 13:03:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Donedy
So you played EVE one week, didnt saw 1/100 of it, and you already wanna change it?

wtf

On another side, i agree that when i started eve i felt very disappointed about not being able to fly "manually".

*Clic clic clic*
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2013-04-29 13:05:46 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
The difficulty of the game comes from the godawful UI imo, not the game mechanics itself. All the info and buttons make for a terrible first-time experience. I signed one of my buddies up via a buddy invite, he got in and did the Aura tutorial, and signed off and never got back on again. I asked him why and he said: "because it looks too complicated". I couldn't really disagree with him. What?


everybody who used windows should be really ok to play the game, the problem is that most people do not want to spend the time and the attention it would take to handle it, for me i would even like that it is more complex

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2013-04-29 13:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Donedy wrote:
So you played EVE one week, didnt saw 1/100 of it, and you already wanna change it?

wtf


so you as well can not read 3 lines and understand them? try harder...

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Lamah Dalai
#26 - 2013-04-29 13:46:39 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Lamah Dalai wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
...
At the beginning of the game you could choose where you want to start, in the simulation orientated middle of the space or at the action orientated outside, however it shoud from that point anward be possible for both players to dig deeper inside the other areas as well.
...

One more year until Star Citizen will go live and then finally we will have the game that many of us here dream about. They already did in few month stuff that CCP failed to do in 10 years.
Yes, have fun in your meaningless, small scale pseudo space opera.

In that meaningless space opera I could board your big mama azz ship with my crapy Impairor, cut your throat and throw your remains out in the space. Or sell you as a slave and shoot you in the face later. Is this meaningless enough? And oh.. I don't need years of skill training to do that, a simple knife will do it.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-04-29 13:56:27 UTC
Lamah Dalai wrote:
In that meaningless space opera I could board your big mama azz ship with my crapy Impairor, cut your throat and throw your remains out in the space. Or sell you as a slave and shoot you in the face later. Is this meaningless enough? And oh.. I don't need years of skill training to do that, a simple knife will do it.

Too bad he'll be able to adjust his "PvP slider" to "none" in Star Citizen, making all your ****-waving precisely that: ****-waving. That's why Star Citizen will never compare to EVE.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Lamah Dalai
#28 - 2013-04-29 14:56:31 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Lamah Dalai wrote:
In that meaningless space opera I could board your big mama azz ship with my crapy Impairor, cut your throat and throw your remains out in the space. Or sell you as a slave and shoot you in the face later. Is this meaningless enough? And oh.. I don't need years of skill training to do that, a simple knife will do it.

Too bad he'll be able to adjust his "PvP slider" to "none" in Star Citizen, making all your ****-waving precisely that: ****-waving. That's why Star Citizen will never compare to EVE.

I was talking with a bad guy, or at least that was my impression. And in SC bad guys don't need to adjust any sliders. See, here is another big difference.. somehow I don't enjoy to fight with kids like many of you do, but I love to fight with big mouth elitist mofos, thing that I cannot do in EVE.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-04-29 16:18:15 UTC
Uhm ... *i* have reading issues ?

You wrote words about what you would want to see in this game,
which i commented with the jedi hand wave,
because EvE is not the game you're looking for,
if you want that kind of stuff.

The second comment was regarding StarCitizen,
which will be a meaningless, small scale space opera.

You can read that up on their website. It's small scale,
with a bit of space opera, but meaningless in the bigger picture.

Anyway ... go make yourself a target for somebody else,
i'm not interested in blowing your ass up.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-04-29 16:22:05 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Plus Star Citizen promises some persistence to its universe, and while combat will be small-scale compared to EVE, it promises to provide quality over quantity. EVE on the other hand, and this is especially obvious in missions where instead of challenging AI you are simply buried under a pile of mentally-challenged suicidal enemy ships in each wave, has always been about quantity over quality. This game has what, 2500 systems? All mostly the same, with just a handful of backdrops. Maybe it would have been better if it had only 500 systems, but each unique, with unique story, soundtrack, NPCs, resources, etc? But CCP went with quantity over quality.
Yes, PvE in EvE is meaningless,
but is actually the smallest part of the game.

Judging EvE by it's PvE makes no sense. At all.

The meaning comes from the social interactions, the influence people have onto eachother in game
and in real life, through actions in the game. Social interaction never is meaningless, but most games
don't deliver possibilities on a scale like EvE does.

You would do yourself a favour if you stopped seeing EvE as PvE only,
because that makes you look like you have no clue of the game.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-04-29 16:23:23 UTC
Lamah Dalai wrote:
In that meaningless space opera I could board your big mama azz ship with my crapy Impairor, cut your throat and throw your remains out in the space. Or sell you as a slave and shoot you in the face later. Is this meaningless enough? And oh.. I don't need years of skill training to do that, a simple knife will do it.
Oh look, we have a wannabe badass here.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-04-29 16:27:48 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Uhm ... *i* have reading issues ?

You wrote words about what you would want to see in this game,
which i commented with the jedi hand wave,
because EvE is not the game you're looking for,
if you want that kind of stuff.

The second comment was regarding StarCitizen,
which will be a meaningless, small scale space opera.

You can read that up on their website. It's small scale,
with a bit of space opera, but meaningless in the bigger picture.

Anyway ... go make yourself a target for somebody else,
i'm not interested in blowing your ass up.


you still did not read careful enough, the devs want to add stuff to make the game more accessible, they will do it anyway, no matter how much the core players do not want it, my suggestion was to put this accessible version of the game at the outside and keep the core the same, at the moment it seems the devs want to mess around with the core and want to make the core more accessible, thats something i would not like to see, hope you got it now

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#33 - 2013-04-29 18:41:57 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Donedy wrote:
So you played EVE one week, didnt saw 1/100 of it, and you already wanna change it?

wtf


so you as well can not read 3 lines and understand them? try harder...

Understand what, that you are asking new game mechanics while you dont even know the ones existing?
Also, what i read is not even in the good forum section, so whatever.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2013-04-29 21:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Donedy wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Donedy wrote:
So you played EVE one week, didnt saw 1/100 of it, and you already wanna change it?

wtf


so you as well can not read 3 lines and understand them? try harder...

Understand what, that you are asking new game mechanics while you dont even know the ones existing?
Also, what i read is not even in the good forum section, so whatever.


yet another victim of some serious misinterpretation...

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