EVE General Discussion

Considering that it is a physical good I would say that once you have it there should be no problem putting it up on ebay or craig's list. So a private sale should fall under that as well.

Because of PLEX being purchasable with "real money" that makes ISK and subsequently PLEX "real money" as well.

33,333,333.33 ISK is roughly equivalent to 1 USD, give or take.

Therefore, purchasing the collectors edition for PLEX is perfectly reasonable and should be allowed.

Would you give away, say to me, all of your ISK - after all 'it's free'? : ) I doubt it, because obtaining the ISK also took some effort. There's also alternative cost - I bought 10 PLEX in anticipation for a potential CE offer, if I used them for such a purpose, I'd miss out on 10 months of game time. It's not 'free' : )


"How much ISK am I getting for this?" is what a person considering sale of PLEX asks themselves. Do you think the amount of people willing to take the opportunity is constant regardless of the conversion rate, say both for 15$->300M ISK and 15$->500M ISK?

Here is a quote from CCP Spitfire from another thread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=229742&p=2



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It wouldn't make sense to produce less than they can potentially sell if they have any business sense at all. They will add up all pre-orders, come up with a number of potential neo-neckbeard purchasers over the span of a few years and add those as well + include a nice stash for random future purposes .. that will be the number of copies produced.

I reallllly wanted the collectors edition too. But I'm in agreement with Stark here, I have no interest in either the board game or the DUST stuff (mainly because it's not available on PC).

Everything in it to do with EVE i'd gladly purchase for £99 but it looks like a lot of the packaging and such has been made towards fitting an almost completely unrelated board game >.> whoops.

It's made it a bit tougher decision for me.

Well, I must HAVE that Golden Pod.. it would be against my Amarrian heritage not to pre-order it! Truly, "Collectors Item" has been misused quite often as to cheapen the term.

A true collector wouldn't hesitate to sell off some of her finest slaves (not the flogged ones I say) for the privilege of a Golden Pod.

I'm for making it available for plex, and here's my points on that;

1) Eve is a game that already allows financially challenged people to play with the same rights/priviledges as 'paid' subscribers, and they do this via a form of in-game RMT-ing via PLEX. To have a collectors edition that caters to only the PLEX-Sellers and not the PLEX-Consumers is, in my opinion, unfair to the large part of the community that is used to having the same access to the game as PLEX-Sellers.

2) A lot of people seem to think that having an increased demand for plex will drive prices up too high for the plex-consumers to continue using them - this is totally unfounded, in my opinion. I know alot of people who use plex for their accounts (and i'm talking highsec, not nullsec here) and i'm pretty sure they would still play if it took 2-3 days of isk farming to afford a plex instead of 1-2 days. Eve currency is already worth alot in real life money compared to other games, in relation to how easy it is to get. (e.g. it would take alot longer to get the equivalent of $20 worth of currency in another game than it would take to get $20 worth in eve).

3) Alot of the Plex-Sellers i know DO actually buy more plex when the price spikes, so they get the most out of their money. This happened with the New Eden Open tournament (plexes were above 650m for a while), then CCP put a little notice on the launcher essentially saying "oh my, the plex prices are spiking due to this entry fee". Lo and behold, the day that was put up, plex prices plummeted as the market was flooded with people trying to get the most out of their plexes.
TLDR: Plex supply DOES increase when the price is up ASSUMING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S A TEMPORARY SPIKE.

4) Some of us REALLY can't afford the collectors edition anytime soon, and as it has been announced that it will be of finite supply, how can we get the CE in time? I personally have only $60 a month in spending money TOTAL, so not only would i have to save for more than 3 months, but i'd also have to nix all other expenses as well. e.g. no grabbing a quick slice of pizza when in a rush, no monthly lunch out with the family... Should i have not spend a dime for 4 months just to get a collectors edition for a game I love?

Also, for those that look at me and go "bah, he lives in nullsec, he probably has tons of plexes and doesnt know how much people work in highsec to get their plexes", rest assured that's not the case. Highsec (and lowsec) now offer so many ways to get isk... I myself tried industry (was very profitable), scanning (some items you can loot in highsec are almost worth a plex BY ITSELF), wormhole daytripping (fairly steady) and missions (booooring, but the isk is there).
I was able to fund 2 accounts long before i moved to nullsec, and was still able to save over a billion a month.

I propose this idea forward: Instead of making a collectors edition available for plex, limited to 1 per account (which is a silly limit, most people with lots of isk run multiple accounts, i myself have a bunch of accounts running at the moment), How about CCP puts a 'Collectors Edition Application' up; you basically write a short blurb on why you want the CE via plex, then CCP does a quick background check (e.g. checks that you havent already asked for one with a different account, that you've been paying for your account with plexes already and therefore are serious, etc) and then decides whether or not to allow you to buy it with plex. This route would make it hard for people who just want to find a way to get cash value for their plexes, and CCP would be able to track them easily.

I would happily pay 20 plex for one CE - having a golden pod on my main, having the dust gear for my 1 dust account... Thats all most of us plex-to-play-ers are asking.

And before anyone bashes my points, understand that this is not me guessing, or making assumptions - this is based on my observations over almost 2 years of playing this delicious game. =)