Player Features and Ideas Discussion

While I somewhat mirror your sentiments I must still point out that denial of loot and a killmail is the entire point of of self-destructing. Otherwise, what's the point in having it at all?

What I'd like to see is that during self-destruct mode all your module heat up in the same manner they do when being overloaded (minus the positive effects... and if someone actually overloads while in self-destruct mode the heat damage is doubled).
After about a minute all the modules should be nice and crispy, making the ship more vulnerable to a last ditch effort to kill it.

The self destruct was invented back in a time when there were no capitals let alone super-capitals. At least to my knowledge this feature/function is about as old as eve itself. It has never gone through an update either.

The long and short if it: it was not intended to be used with a ship for which it takes so much longer to destroy compared to how long the self destruct timer is. Attackers should have the option of destroying the ship before the timer runs out with a reasonable chance of success. The timer just needs to be much longer for (super-)capitals...

No, you haven't. Those capitals are all dead, right?

Working as intended, there's no issue here.

Honestly, I REALLY like your idea.

Even to the effect that imo the self destruct mechanics are fine, this would add to the experience.

People use self destruct to:

1) escape from WH
2) move their pod fast to the distant system
3) get insurance

This feature is very useful for players.


But why it can be used in PVP situation? Why can my enemy after i caught and overpowered him steal my killmail and loot?

For me its not enought that my enemy lose his ship. Even carriers arent that expensive as they were 2 years before. I want satisfaction for my efforts. And its not an empty wreck.

And im pretty sure this often happens, when a capital is catched. He log off or self destruct. People dont like being ditched and start avoiding this situalion (blob or just do something else). Anyway it does not add fun to EVE.

These are the ways to solve the problem:

1) If a player is aggressed by another player they cannot self destruct.

2) Ships cannot activate self destruct and self-destruct ceases when they are warp scrambled.

3) Your modules enter a state similar to offline when you self destruct. They give no ship bonuses and can't be activated. Modules return to normal when self-destruct is cancelled.

I agree on that part, if self destruct it should work as a bomb.

In the army if getting over run, you destruct any gear you dont want you enemy to have before they rush in.

I find selfstruct just fine, if you cant manage to kill a ship in that time, you are to few for the task and the target should be in best interest to selfdestruct and deny the enemy access to loot. The KM how ever i think should work as when you get on a CONCORD mail, and as stated show the involved parties.

PvP tears, interesting. I find it rather ironic that the word 'unfair' even enters a thread like this. If the tables were turned, not one person would be complaining about it. Personally, if they removed KMs from the game, then I'd support the removal of the SD function. But since they won't, then there has to be a way for the victims to deny their assailants satisfaction and maybe get a few tears of their own.

Stop crying, pull up your panties, and come up with a legitimate reason to remove self-destruct from the game.

U mad bro?

Either way you will need a decent amount of DPS.

I can tell you a story about small gangs.
I was flying passive tanked sleipnir. Ruprure thrasher and falcon managed to catch me. When i had smth like 60% shields i initiated self destruct ("because i can"). In 20% hull SD was done. I realise that its not fair but this is the machanics we have in EVE and as i human i will use every possibility to harm my enemy. But its no good for game.



If someone want to be safe, he should live in high sec.

Rather if someone wants to avoid being the kill on a killmail, try avoiding the situation to begin with. The persons responsible for causing you to opt for self destruction deserve the kill.

Why should anyone have the option to chicken out of a killmail like that? What have they done to desrve it? Whereas the would be killer doesn't need any more proof than the self destruction that they left the other player no other choice.