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EVR Fighters

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Wodensun
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#21 - 2013-04-28 16:29:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Wodensun
Kitty Bear wrote:
It does look really interesting, I'd definitely like to try it out one day.
With the integration of dust into the eve universe, I don't really see there being an issue with adding a 3rd game stream



aside from the extra complexity ...... but im sure you guys at ccp would enjoy that kind of challenge Big smile


Couldnt agree more

rifters and other frigs would suddenly have more roles then they have now, same goes for things such as small nuets/nos, smartbombs would suddenly be very usefull, yeah I can deffo see this work well

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Steve Ronuken
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#22 - 2013-04-28 16:38:49 UTC
I'm suspecting /direct/ integration into Eve isn't really viable. Not at a:
launch from a players carrier, and fly around where Eve players can see you.


In part, it's because they run at different time scales. The fighters were pretty fragile, and died a lot. So the games were over very quickly. And then there's the problems with the number of updates that have to be sent around.

On the other hand, it could be set in wars between Factions (and or pirates). Launching from NPC ships that just happen to never be round players. It's not as nice as the level of integration as Dust gets, but it's still nice.

And avoids the 'My carrier doesn't work, as I can't get my squadron of pilots to log on' issue

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Wodensun
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#23 - 2013-04-28 16:44:13 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
I'm suspecting /direct/ integration into Eve isn't really viable. Not at a:
launch from a players carrier, and fly around where Eve players can see you.


In part, it's because they run at different time scales. The fighters were pretty fragile, and died a lot. So the games were over very quickly. And then there's the problems with the number of updates that have to be sent around.

On the other hand, it could be set in wars between Factions (and or pirates). Launching from NPC ships that just happen to never be round players. It's not as nice as the level of integration as Dust gets, but it's still nice.

And avoids the 'My carrier doesn't work, as I can't get my squadron of pilots to log on' issue


Time scales arent a issue since this game wouldnt use the same engine as eve does. And the fighters should be fragile since they are also much more manouverable, and as for carriers if the fighter isnt manned it just functions as a regular fighter already in game?

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Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#24 - 2013-04-28 16:52:09 UTC
CCP MAKE IT HAPPEND, AND I PROMISS I WONT GO BACK TO REAL LIFE!
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#25 - 2013-04-28 16:55:45 UTC
CCP WhiteNoiseTrash wrote:
Wodensun wrote:
I want to fly a fighter in the EvE universe...

Make it happen CCP and i'll be hooked for the rest of my live...

Do it CCP!

also.. bump


nothing is official, this was a small project made by a handful of devs on our own time. after hours, late nights and weekends. But it for sure is an interesting approach to gaming.
Damn straight it is. Cool
Seriously - this would integrate extremely well, and be very popular.

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Trendon Evenstar
Olympus Gods
#26 - 2013-04-28 17:01:26 UTC
CCP WhiteNoiseTrash wrote:
Wodensun wrote:
I want to fly a fighter in the EvE universe...

Make it happen CCP and i'll be hooked for the rest of my live...

Do it CCP!

also.. bump


nothing is official, this was a small project made by a handful of devs on our own time. after hours, late nights and weekends. But it for sure is an interesting approach to gaming.


Let me pilot fighters out of my carrier thanks
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#27 - 2013-04-28 17:03:34 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Create somewhat more effective "Advanced Fighters and Fighter Bombers" that are pilot only.

Allow Carrier and Super Carrier pilots the option of stocking standard or advanced fighters/fighter bombers.

Integrate voice coms and an overview, perhaps one that has it's content is controlled by the Carrier/Super Carrier pilot.
Or, just have fighters shift to 'manned or unmanned' design - that they can fly under AI, or under meat-bag control, as pilots are available. That way, if you've got fleet mates who don't want to slug it out ship to ship, they can man the fighter & fighter/bombers, but if you've got no one available for flight duty, you can still launch under AI control. Or a mixture of both.

Would also maybe want to consider a rudimentary clone bay capacity on super carriers.

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Sentamon
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Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-04-28 17:04:07 UTC
Demo was amazing! Make it happen CCP

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#29 - 2013-04-28 17:20:53 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
I'm suspecting /direct/ integration into Eve isn't really viable. Not at a:
launch from a players carrier, and fly around where Eve players can see you.


I agree, but a stand alone game using the all the art and story assets already present would be smart and almost as good.

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Zheketri
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#30 - 2013-04-28 17:35:48 UTC
The idea of a system like this integrated with EvE is very compelling, but I don't believe it could be done without comprimises that might kill that feeling.
A standalone game, however, seems very possible. Something along the lines of a Freespace like game with missions and the abiltity to dogfight other players as well, maybe even a scenario creator as well. I'd pay for that. After all it's not like I'm holding my breath for another actual Freespace game.

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Wodensun
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#31 - 2013-04-28 17:37:40 UTC
Stand alone game that intergrates into the EvE universe and does allow interaction between EvE and EVR

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#32 - 2013-04-28 17:45:42 UTC
Just make the weapons effects from starships like those in Freespace 2, k? When you're piloting a fighter near a wing of Amarr battleships laying waste... O_O

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#33 - 2013-04-28 17:59:10 UTC
OMFG! I need to buy a Fenrir when that goes live. (Because Fenrirs are the most agile freighters.)

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Kimentor
Gallifrey Industries
#34 - 2013-04-28 18:30:54 UTC
This was truly an amazing experience and I sincerely hope that we will be able to get our hands on this as soon as possible
bartos100
Living Ghost
#35 - 2013-04-28 18:50:35 UTC
the video looks amazing

now imagine this a second link between eve/dust

suppercarriers can chose to launch manned fighters that are able to go atmospheric and provide air support to dust mercs as well as shoot ships in orbit
cap prolif's
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-04-28 19:26:50 UTC
if you look at the new warp gate effects they are already pushing us towards cockpit view. they know it has to be done in order for this game to keep fresh.
marVLs
#37 - 2013-04-28 19:27:59 UTC
How about piloted fighters/bombers got some big bonuses so players want to fly them in serious fights instead of bringing another normal ship.
No matter what that demo was awesome, please implement it in EVE
C DeLeon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-04-28 19:30:48 UTC
It would be cool to see dogfights in eve. Maybe with some kind of instanced system to avoid laggy situations but still.
Enthropic
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2013-04-28 20:02:53 UTC
CCP I dont get it. some of your Devs make something so purely awesome and full of win in their off-hours and this is apparently not even part of any offical future vision?

You put so much time into Dust (which is great I gues), you make new exploration minigames and warp animations and you rebalance ships. good stuff..


BUT

omfg, if you would expand your universe and allow carrier pilots to launch fighters that some pubbies from some other client (like the old X-wing etc) could pilot and support our battles.. I mean ... HOW AWESOME would that be?

You could make a crapload of money building a x-wing or tie-fighter based game, no?

Id trade this for some stupid PI mobile client games or some ego shooters any time!!


Im part of a huge gaming syndicate, theyre big into planetside2 etc, Im sure we alone would bring in a hundred fighter pilots into the game immediatly, and we would pay for it.

the stuff youre doing is nice and all that, but this video, made by some of your guys in their off time... it beats everything your entire company has been doing during the last months :O
Enthropic
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2013-04-28 20:05:05 UTC
Wodensun wrote:
Stand alone game that intergrates into the EvE universe and does allow interaction between EvE and EVR



this exactly, less words than I used. agree 100%

this would have so much potential