EVE New Citizens Q&A

I started playing a few days ago. I've got a warp scrambler, afterburner, I'm using an executioner frigate and was wondering, what else should I work towards? Are destroyers worth using or stick to a fast, cheap frigate? Any general tips that I might not know?

I ain't a pirate...so not really a clue on what you should look for etc..


But I would like to mention:

+1 for the attitude (and that is because I can't like your post more then once)

Thanks! So edge-of-scrambler range would be long range attacking just inside scrambler range and kiting would be pulling away from them being able to hit me then jabbing away with my attacks, right?

Crosstrain frigates early. Train Destroyers V ASAP. Train Anchoring.

Not only will it give you a massive diversity of cheap ships to throw at your potential targets, it will also familiarize you with the different racial abilities. Know your foe. The downside to this is that you can't rush into ships that can tank gate guns, but there are way more fun ways to play your part as a pirate then to camp a static chokepoint. The Anchoring skill will let you deploy warp disruption bubbles, which come in a few sizes and are nice tools to terrorize nullsec / wspace.

Expect to die 100 times before you get a solo kill.

That's a grossly exaggerated number but you get my point. You will lose. You will die a dozen times over unless you are lucky and find yourself a derping target on day one. But don't give up! Piracy, especially solo, is very hard and unforgiving, but utterly satisfactory.

Learn your d-scanner and all the tricks that come with it.

I'm coming up too 2 months old in game and love roaming nullsec for them unsuspecting people. It might be worth downloading a fitting tool so you can experiment yourself with fits and what you can equip and can't. I use an Incursus for my roaming, armour tanked with a scram and a web. The D-Scan is your best friend when roaming and will notify you of any nearby targets/threats.

I already have a couple of kills under my belt.. Once you pop (a ship) you cant stop

It also kind of helps that I live in a wormhole with an experienced wormhole Corp and have had some help along the way with funding and tactics.

Just to prove that its good stuff finding them unsuspecting targets, here is a taster of what you can possibly expect

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17158812

Also here is what happens when you successfully tackle someone much much bigger than you

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17131493

We all lost our ships during this fight as he had backup but we still caused the damage :P

If someone kills you, like another pirate, dont be afraid to convo him and ask what mistakes you did and if he can give you any advice.
Most pirates will try give you a few pointers.

Happy hunting!

You have to understand the difference between Piracy and PVP. Just because you might be in low sec space, an out law in regards to security status and kill people does not make you a pirate, many people mistakenly use it that way though but that's not the case. a Pirate is someone who does whatever he needs to make a profit, holding people at gun point is one of them. Which security space you're doing that in, or what sec status you are yourself has nothing to do with it. You could be a pirate in high sec space (and a damn good one because all the fat sheep fly in high sec).

So decide what you want to do; kill people for bragging rights or trying to make a business out of it, because they're not the same, require a different approach and sometimes even a different ship or fitting.


Apart from that, EVE is about what you KNOW and not so much about your SP count or what you're flying. So to do well you have to learn the game mechanics, learn the different ships, fittings, strategies and you need to have situational awareness. Thing is that PVP in EVE is a giant and ever evolving rock, paper, scissors and the trick is to "read" which one your adversary is using before you commit to a fight. The vast majority of people are incapable of this. Some might be newbies but many are actually clowns (low IQ or lazy, although most will ofcourse use the cool "meh I don't care" excuse) and because of that they get into a fight without an idea of what's going to happen, then they make their choice based on zero knowledge (they always choose paper for instance) and simply hope the other guy is rock, not scissors. And when it was scissors they go "oh well, bad luck". Thing is ofcourse that there is no bad luck, just them not reading the scenario before they start.

On that executioner, the guy calling is a baby slicer and then fitting afterburner is hilarious because a Slicer is, by definition, a kiter. In a short range role it simply does not work too well and while the Executioner is much better at scram kiting than the slicer will ever be it's just one way of doing things. Understanding how scram kiting works and against which ships it works best is a major key in learning how PVP actually works, something (again) most people are clueless on which is ofcourse and advantage for you if you DO know it.

So it's not so much about a ship choice, or a fitting decision or even your SP count. It's about you putting in the effort to learn how actual PVP works, bringing the right tool for the job and recognising a bad situation before you commit to it. By doing so you'll easily outdo most others because they tend to be clueless, even much older players (never "fear" character age, there's tons of clowns who've been playing for 8 years and are still as clueless as a newbie, it's easy to outdo them).


As an alternative to the scram kiting Executioner, have a look at this fit. It's a kiter. it has a different strategy and different target choices. It doesn't get close and duke it out hoping to tank the target's applied dps, it stays at range and plinks target to death staying well away from the target's applied dps. Thing is that with a fit like that you can kill stuff like Assault Frigates as well simply because they're too slow, per usual there are exceptions ofcourse.


[Executioner, Kiting]
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]

Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I

Just because I called it a baby slicer doesn't mean it is one you can trick a lot of people with the names of your ships. I simply call it a baby slicer because it is essentially the same hull. The part about most people not knowing how to properly scram-kite is very true. I like that kiting executioner fit though, I will have to try it out

Destroyers are a bit limited in what they can do, they **** frigates (and everyone knows it) and they die to cruisers (and every knows it). Because their pros and cons are widely known it's not easy finding targets because the ones you can kill will stay away from you and the ones you can't kill will go for you.

On that fit; active tanking doesn't really work in many cases. partly because it uses tons of cap but also because fights tend to be over before the excess repping over a plate starts to make sense. To make up for the HP a plate adds you generally need to tank for 45 seconds, beyond that time limit a repper will start to pull ahead but during that time it uses massive amounts of cap and it forces you to pay attention to it. Because of all that most PVP fits use plates, not so much active repping. There are exceptions, especially since the ancillary reppers/boosters.

Again, a fit only makes sense if you have a plan that will make that fit work against a target you know it'll work against. Different targets, different fit. I know that sounds like I'm evading your question but I'm not; there are no easy answers in EVE, any proper answer always starts with "that depends".

Don't be lured into flying T2 or faction ships, at least not for now. They' won't help you until you start understanding how stuff really works and have the support skills to make them perform. Until then they're just expensive paperweights.

Generally 200 or 400 for frigates and 800-1600 for cruisers. BC and BS use 1600. Thing is that they take a lot of fitting and slow you down, so if you want to do (scram) kiting then plates are a hindrance.