EVE General Discussion

All these fanfesty words from the various presentations like freedom, interaction, exploration, working together, viscereal, depth, immersion etc mean nothing to me as long as I'm still sitting in my quarters like a trapped cat. We're now being told that we will soon be able to travel even further in the game in search of ever more exciting baubles while being told at the same time that taking just a few steps to borrow a cup of sugar from a corp mate's quarters next door remains just simply too far to go.

They're considering ideas that encourage people to team up more and build friendships and communities which are obviously so important to the success of the game, ideas like making bigger belts so that we bump into one another more and hopefully interact yet we are strictly confined back to quarters the moment we redock.

You now want us to build jumpgates that we can venture through yet you don't want to make us a door that would have dimensionalised this game far more?

Over the years I have got to know many people, I've spoken to their families, I know their birthdays how their jobs are going almost everything about them yet to me in this game they are sadly reduced to a 10cm typing portrait or a name in my fleet where often I can't even tell where their ship is or what they are even flying.

The constant buddy invite promotions only make this failing even more frustrating, why would I invite my friends to play this game and then consign them to the abject boredom of spending most of their online time kicking around a 10x10 cell when we can go off and play dozens of far more engaging games where I can see them in a far more personalised form running free and interacting in the same environment that I am?

Wouldn't it be priceless to get a friend into EVE and then invite him over to your quarters to laugh at how he's fitted himself out and what they've made themselves into, that moment alone would be worth a thousand dumb ratting adventures?

Here's a good indicator, all the fun that is self evident at fanfest involves a massive bunch of people all sharing and interacting in a room together! Imagine a game that could recreate that? But inevitably once they get back home and log on they'll back to those solitary cells and cockpits and will have to then wait until the next fanfest before they will see one another again in any meaningful way.

That station of yours that cost billions to make, well now it's your prison.

That nice concept that we were told about on the stream where dust characters blow up a space station, how's that going to work? will our stations be raided and the poor old EVE player be forced to sit on his bed helplessly and listen to the console players charging footsteps outside in the corridors while they have fun deciding the fate of his precious piece of space real estate?

I know this type of restrictive format has been successful for EVE up till now but this was conceived 10 years ago and anybody that loves these type of games will know what fresher games are looming on the horizon, games that promise it's Citizens a far more social and unfettered experience.

I'd love to know the different proportions of time that players spend flying in space against sitting in stations, I'm sure that one set of those numbers (we so love) would indicate that most players interactions are consigned to just a glorified chat room while sitting alone in our quarters akin to knocking my drinking cup against my cell wall and wondering if any of my fellow cell mates next door are actually there.

But why?

Why do so many players and CCP seem to confuse the golden bullets/monocle saga with the original promise of being able to move around our stations? Yes we wanted a focus on fixing our space ships but now you're moving on into the further reaches without actually looking at the players experience that is far far closer to home. Monoclegate and this fanfest have now consigned thousands of us to at least another year and probably a lot more trapped in these cells and who really want's to carry on paying for a game that was far more real 10 years ago than it is starting to feel today?

There is far more important things that need to be done before resources are spent on Incarna stuff.

Do you seriously expect them to go there after the Incarna riots?

If that's what we say, then the door will never open. Someone will always be saying that something else needs to be done first, no matter what state the game is in.

You're just in the wrong game mate. Who uses the CQ?

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Wrong question.. No-one uses CQ because there's no reason to use it it it's current form. If developed I think alot of people will use it.

I'm in the wrong game? Nah after having spend so much time in EvE I'ld say that all the people complaining about CQ and WiS is in the wrong game

There's already a big thread for WIS disappointment, maybe you guys could form a support group.


CCP made the right decision to shelve WIS, they're not ready, and a big chunk of EVE players don't have the kit to run it (yet) in the way that Dog intended.

I'm most likely undocked more that you having spent close to 3 years in WH now but all i'm saying is that from my point of view, disregarding WiS saddens me and other people

There is a "Unlock" the door button right at the bottom left of your screen in your CQ.

That is your opinion, not mine or the OPs.

In some aspects I agree with you dude, but mainly no....I dont think they should sort out the Incarna stuff or open the door, not until CCP feel that they are ready.

You sound like a guy that plays for the social aspect and I get that but you're clearly making this game sound more like a Facebook presence within your life rather than an area to have fun PvP'ing, Ratting or Hell even.......Mining if you really want, If your going to complain that the people you know ingame are a portrait get skype get a webcam and flash them.....

Honestly get out of your quarters and shoot something/someone....or if this game has truely become that boring for you unsub and play another.