EVE General Discussion

We're not 'irrelevant', we're the ones paying for their little Sony party.

Maybe we should try not paying them for a while to see if they remember where their focus ought to be then.

Those are huge changes FFS ppl. What are u talking about of lack of content. Ppl must be so dumb.
Also if u didnt like the idea about the free comics and EVE history book. First Collectors Edition box and possible TV show u can all GTFO from New Eden tnx and bye!

For an organisation to be successful it needs to diversify. Every product will have its highs and lows, thats why the 2nd, 3rd and other products are needed, to take the weight of the lesser performing one.

I dont play DUST but it is amazing what CCP is doing and believe me that DUST will be much more prollifc than EVE will ever be because it appeals to much broader audience.

See, that's just idiotic.

Comparing it to holding one's breath is supposed to make my argument sound like that of a petulant child, one who is completely at the behest of his parents and has no bargaining chip so all he can do is hold his breath.

We're the ones paying for this. It's not the same. Considering you're in Tribal Band I'm gonna assume you're just dumb and not a troll, that tends to be the norm for you guys.

No it's exactly same
See, there it is, the threat to hold your breath or throw a tantrum.

You assume wrong, I joined a corp.





No it's clear that you don't understand REAL WORLD issues
I mean it's not like a major business has never back tracked from a policy decision before right .... Coke Cola for example have never dropped ball and back tracked right ???


supply & demand mechanisms in EVE Online, are not the same as they are in the real world.
In the real world
Production is not driven by what the consumer wants
The consumer purchases what the producer makes available for purchase
Marketing Campaigns are then used to make the consumer think that what they really wanted all along was what is available to buy.
If you can't see that, and understand it, I feel sorry for you.


EVE Online is a game, with a game mechanic supply & demand model
CCP is a company that operates in the real world as a profit making body
stop confusing the two, they are very, very separate.

Baltec1 gets it..... why don't more of you?

I hate to sound like a CCP fanboy (I completely trashed them during the Incarna fiasco), but I thoroughly enjoyed FF. If you haven't come to one (this was my first), I highly recommend you do so, if you ever have the opportunity in the future. The CCP people are wonderful and accessible, the Iceland people are fantastic and the food is great. Even my wife (she doesn't play) had an awesome time.

As far as the various presentations, I mostly attended the Eve-related ones. There were Dust presentations, but I didn't attend them, so I don't get why people are saying Dust took over or something. The keynotes were much more global in scope, talking about Eve, Dust, and a whole lot of other things. I found them interesting and enjoyable.

Nobody here seemed upset or disappointed, much the opposite in fact. I suspect some of the complainers are 'sour grapes' who weren't here, or internet tough guys who were afraid to speak up in person. Regardless, it seems to me Eve has a good long term path ahead of it, and CCP has some real interesting ideas to expand the universe. Will Dust succeed? Will there actually be Eve movies and comic books? I have no idea, but they are wise to explore such options. It seems they are bringing in outside partners to handle that stuff (Dark Horse, for example), so it shouldn't affect our experience much.

As long as they don't screw up my character too much, I'm all for them using my in-game personna..... just remember, guys, if Garamonde ends up in an EVE movie or comic book.... I'm not a badass.... I'm not a hero.... I'm the comedy guy. More Archer-like than Rocco-ish....

Also, going to Iceland would be amazing. Alcohol, snow (or so I have heard), and Metal shows? I'm so there.

I could not agree more.

While I disagree with the notion of calling the customer 'stupid', it must be said:

'The customer is always right' is complete nonsense.

As a (former) customer-service agent, I long ago lost track of the number of times someone told me that they were a 'paying customer' and I should just break the rules to suit them:

'I'm paying for this service, just turn my phone back on'. Not when you haven't paid your bill for two solid months, buddy.

'I was in queue for an hour! This is unacceptable! I pay my bill on time, and I expect better service!' See those three hundred people behind you? They've been waiting for two.'

'My son changed his contacts and replaced me with his girlfriend -- I pay for his phone, so you have to change them back!' You may pay the bills, but it's your son's name on the account. Get him on the line, and then we'll talk.

(For the record, that last one is a real call that was handled by my own supervisor.)

In short: expecting preferential treatment for your status as a 'paying customer' is childish, and frankly, it wastes the time of everyone involved. Sit down, wait your turn, and accept the fact that you're not god.

So why not make eve p2p? Origin of all boring things from grind, and grind from PLEX.