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Odyssey - clearly a socialist plot.

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Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#1 - 2013-04-28 11:11:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Dad
The Eve home page has a 'Personality test' to 'discover who you are'

Explorer is 1 (of 4) within the 12 professions clearly tagged with SOLO icon ( bottom right).

I love EVE mostly due to exploration and the opportunities it offers the solo player. You can usually also get some decent solo PVP if another explorer turns up.

Reading the Massively website ( my only source of information to date) the hacking open of cans is to be replaced with a 'more realistic co-operative loot gathering mini-game' and 'hopefully this will encourage them to take friends when exploring'

Dressing up this nerf as an improvement is insulting to a large number of intelligent and dedicated players.

Sure, I /we have to adapt and evolve, but solo IS a personality type as CCP clearly recognises, and we are under the cosh again.

When Odyssey is released we will know more, & perhaps there will be new way to live in a small unloved part of this great game for us still

For the time being though, and to comply with the United Kingdom Trade Descriptions Act, could CCP take off all the SOLO tags on the new player career guides??

You don't like solo, so why mislead people in the first place into thinking they could retain their individuality - this is a socialist workers collective in the making. Can someone somewhere in CCP stand up for the individual please.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#2 - 2013-04-28 11:45:17 UTC
The prototype for the new exploration system does not FORCE non solo play, it only incentivises co-op.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2013-04-28 11:51:52 UTC
So you need pals in a multiplayer game to get the best out of it.

Whoda thunk it?
Octoven
Stellar Production
#4 - 2013-04-28 11:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Zen Dad wrote:
The Eve home page has a 'Personality test' to 'discover who you you are'

Explorer is 1 (of 4) within the 12 professions clearly tagged with SOLO icon ( bottom right).

I love EVE mostly due to exploration and the opportunities it offers the solo player. You can usually also get some decent solo PVP if another explorer turns up.

Reading the Massively website ( my source of information) the hacking open of cans is to be replaced with a 'more realistic co-operative loot gathering mini-game' and 'hopefully this will encourage them to take friends when exploring'

(Does anyone in CCP headquarters stick up for solo players or is that a 'fail' on the job application form?)

Dressing up this nerf as an improvement is insulting to a large number of intelligent and dedicated players.

Sure, I /we have to adapt and evolve, but solo IS a personality type as CCP clearly recognises, and we are under the cosh again.

When Odyssey is released we will know more, & perhaps there will be new way to live in a small unloved part of this great game for us still

For the time being though, and to comply with the United Kingdom Trade Descriptions Act, could CCP take off all the SOLO tags on the new player career guides??

You don't like solo, so why mislead people in the first place into thinking they could retain their individuality - this is a socialist workers collective in the making.







This is by far the worst post ive read in the anti-odyssey threads. You actually think this is a way to kill solo exploring?? Wow man, look at it this way:


If you do solo hacking and all the cans pop out, you can STILL grab like 8-10 cans before they disappear...you wont get them all but stop being greedy damn. If you bring a friend you have a better chance of getting them all. There is nothing preventing you from doing those sites solo.

To be honest Id much rather hack into something using an interactive way, have dozens of cans pop out with random loot in them, me grab what I can and hope i get something good; then to have 4 cans that I have to sit there with an analyzer or code breaker waiting for it to open the can. Only to grab **** I could get in a mission or from research agents. Its pointless.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal
Ix Method
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-04-28 11:53:57 UTC
Anyone got a Cold War meme handy?

Travelling at the speed of love.
Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
#6 - 2013-04-28 11:54:54 UTC
Zen Dad wrote:
Reading the Massively website ( my source of information) the hacking open of cans is to be replaced with a 'more realistic co-operative loot gathering mini-game' and 'hopefully this will encourage them to take friends when exploring'


By "friends" they mean another alt, so it's still solo.
It's the eve quagmire. encouraging multi-player interaction, while pushing mega alting solo play. Masturbating with both hands is not a 3 way.
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-04-28 11:56:31 UTC
Do you think you should be able to get the same income solo as with a group of friends?
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#8 - 2013-04-28 12:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Hi,

Taken a break from mowing the lawn solo to reply. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal As I said, the home page describes exploration as solo - just change it - because it is now group..
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-04-28 12:30:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Zen Dad wrote:
Hi,

Taken a break from mowing the lawn solo to reply. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal As I said, the home page describes exploration as solo - just change it - because it is now group..


No its still solo.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-04-28 12:36:54 UTC
someone assimilate this rogue node before the others catch on.

forums.  serious business.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2013-04-28 15:04:22 UTC
I have removed an off topic post. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-04-28 15:27:39 UTC
7-8/10 ... the idea's kind of funny. ^_^
Tri Vetra
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-04-28 15:30:55 UTC
property is theft
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
#14 - 2013-04-28 15:33:17 UTC
Ix Method wrote:
Anyone got a Cold War meme handy?


WOLVERINES!!! Pirate

...that's all I got.

♪ They'll always be bloodclaws to me ♫
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#15 - 2013-04-28 15:33:41 UTC
I don't like the pinata idea because it just doesn't make sense. I hack a computer and it spits out cans? Really?

What next? If I fail an attempt will a safe drop on my head?

Just a bad idea CCP.
Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-04-28 15:37:07 UTC
Zen Dad wrote:
The Eve home page has a 'Personality test' to 'discover who you are'

Explorer is 1 (of 4) within the 12 professions clearly tagged with SOLO icon ( bottom right).

I love EVE mostly due to exploration and the opportunities it offers the solo player. You can usually also get some decent solo PVP if another explorer turns up.

Reading the Massively website ( my only source of information to date) the hacking open of cans is to be replaced with a 'more realistic co-operative loot gathering mini-game' and 'hopefully this will encourage them to take friends when exploring'

Dressing up this nerf as an improvement is insulting to a large number of intelligent and dedicated players.

Sure, I /we have to adapt and evolve, but solo IS a personality type as CCP clearly recognises, and we are under the cosh again.

When Odyssey is released we will know more, & perhaps there will be new way to live in a small unloved part of this great game for us still

For the time being though, and to comply with the United Kingdom Trade Descriptions Act, could CCP take off all the SOLO tags on the new player career guides??

You don't like solo, so why mislead people in the first place into thinking they could retain their individuality - this is a socialist workers collective in the making. Can someone somewhere in CCP stand up for the individual please.


This thread is terrible OP. You should feel terrible for making it.
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#17 - 2013-04-28 15:58:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Dad
Masuka Taredi wrote:
Zen Dad wrote:
The Eve home page has a 'Personality test' to 'discover who you are'

Explorer is 1 (of 4) within the 12 professions clearly tagged with SOLO icon ( bottom right).

I love EVE mostly due to exploration and the opportunities it offers the solo player. You can usually also get some decent solo PVP if another explorer turns up.

Reading the Massively website ( my only source of information to date) the hacking open of cans is to be replaced with a 'more realistic co-operative loot gathering mini-game' and 'hopefully this will encourage them to take friends when exploring'

Dressing up this nerf as an improvement is insulting to a large number of intelligent and dedicated players.

Sure, I /we have to adapt and evolve, but solo IS a personality type as CCP clearly recognises, and we are under the cosh again.

When Odyssey is released we will know more, & perhaps there will be new way to live in a small unloved part of this great game for us still

For the time being though, and to comply with the United Kingdom Trade Descriptions Act, could CCP take off all the SOLO tags on the new player career guides??

You don't like solo, so why mislead people in the first place into thinking they could retain their individuality - this is a socialist workers collective in the making. Can someone somewhere in CCP stand up for the individual please.


This thread is terrible OP. You should feel terrible for making it.


Please be more specific - it is terrible because it is a viewpoint you don't share?
Please explain.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-04-28 16:21:12 UTC
Tri Vetra wrote:
property is theft
Not empty quoting.
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#19 - 2013-04-28 16:35:05 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Do you think you should be able to get the same income solo as with a group of friends?


The level of income is not my point. My point is that there is a spooky undercurrent in the Forums that anyone who mentions Solo is perhaps at fault and in need of correction.

it is Orwellian - if you don't notice it, then you are part of it.


i'm openly fighting a corner for solo to have enough space to live in, but appreciate that you and others may think that I'm anti-change and anti teaming.

Eve will continue to evolve, but solo players are increasingly second class citizens.

Big Brother is watching us and has plenty of agents in these forums.
Josef Djugashvilis
#20 - 2013-04-28 16:38:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
So you need pals in a multiplayer game to get the best out of it.

Whoda thunk it?


50% of players, play solo...quote from fan-fest.

Leave exploration as a solo pursuit, i.e. let them get all the reward for their efforts and let folk team up if they wish to.

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