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Capital boosts still system wide?
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blair Vyvorant
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#1 - 2013-04-28 13:50:16 UTC
Was wondering with the changes to the boosting system if rorqs and orca will retain system wide boosting ? I for one wouldn't like the rorq sitting in the middle of a belt in nullsec for a boost, can anyone clear this up or does it stay limited to command ships and sub cap?
veera Haklar
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-04-28 13:58:21 UTC
I would hope the change is universal.
People cant whine about of grid boosting being op in one case and allow it in another.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#3 - 2013-04-28 14:00:50 UTC
Off-Grid boosting was always dumb, for PVP and PVE.

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Admiral Snowbird
Kriegsmarinewerft
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2013-04-28 14:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Admiral Snowbird
yes!!!!!

I would like to see the roq in the middle of the belt (in indu-mode for sure) Twisted
blair Vyvorant
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#5 - 2013-04-28 14:15:04 UTC
Hmm I'm a pirate myself and would love some rorq Kms but you wouldn't catch me with capitals in belts so why would you expect Indy characters to put 3 bils of assets into a belt for a minor boost risk vs reward I think in this case it's not worth it
Drunken Bum
#6 - 2013-04-28 14:29:51 UTC
blair Vyvorant wrote:
Hmm I'm a pirate myself and would love some rorq Kms but you wouldn't catch me with capitals in belts so why would you expect Indy characters to put 3 bils of assets into a belt for a minor boost risk vs reward I think in this case it's not worth it

Miners. You know they'll do it.

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Marcus Druallis
Northstar Cabal
#7 - 2013-04-28 14:34:18 UTC
Actually, Rorquals can be fit for pvp pretty well Pirate
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#8 - 2013-04-28 14:56:11 UTC
If they remove off-grid boosting for the rorqual then it won't render them useless, it will just change them to a barge carrying compressing machine.

They will still have a use, but not as powerful as before, nobody in their right mind would sit a rorq in the middle of a belt, press the button and hope that nothing happens for the next x minutes until the cycle can expire if they want it to.

It will devalue the rorqual a lot, and there will be many many threads on the forum, but change is change, not always good, not always bad.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2013-04-28 15:04:39 UTC
Or, let's say, you have a mining colony with a foreman bunker that allows the Rorqual (or any other ship) to sit next to it and relay certain command link bonuses remotely. Sovereignty restricted, of course.

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blair Vyvorant
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#10 - 2013-04-28 17:49:01 UTC
Sov restricted is fine but when you live in syndicate and not sov it should be pushed for the whole of nullsec so smaller corps and alliances who live in npc can benefit too Pirate
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#11 - 2013-04-28 17:51:26 UTC
blair Vyvorant wrote:
Sov restricted is fine but when you live in syndicate and not sov it should be pushed for the whole of nullsec so smaller corps and alliances who live in npc can benefit too Pirate

Then buy a region restricted booster module for your POS from the local Pirate LP store.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#12 - 2013-04-28 17:53:01 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
If they remove off-grid boosting for the rorqual then it won't render them useless, it will just change them to a barge carrying compressing machine.

They will still have a use, but not as powerful as before, nobody in their right mind would sit a rorq in the middle of a belt, press the button and hope that nothing happens for the next x minutes until the cycle can expire if they want it to.

It will devalue the rorqual a lot, and there will be many many threads on the forum, but change is change, not always good, not always bad.


Amen.

I can see the Rorqs making tours of the system, with suitable escorts, moving from belt to belt, compressing and moving on to the next belt. Will make the role more interactive, and IMO more intersting.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-04-28 18:01:41 UTC
If Rorqual OGB is removed then they need to decouple the boosting bonuses from the industrial core and place them on the hull itself.

Nobody in their right mind is going to deploy industrial core in a belt or a grav site for bonuses. That's just monumentally stupid. If they nerf OGB without making this change then the only use the Rorqual will have anymore is for ore compression, which is already at risk because of things like 425mm railguns.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-04-28 18:04:18 UTC
Frankly removing OGB is unnecessary for several reasons and it's about as elegant of a solution to a perceived problem as "let's remove 1% off every resist bonus on every ship in the game without analyzing each ship individually".

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Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-04-28 20:33:33 UTC
Marcus Druallis wrote:
Actually, Rorquals can be fit for pvp pretty well Pirate



This, combined with the fact that putting a Rorq in a belt for the bonuses is so dumb, means that pretty much any Rorq PvP'ers find chilling in a belt is sure to be bait.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-04-28 20:56:00 UTC
blair Vyvorant wrote:
Was wondering with the changes to the boosting system if rorqs and orca will retain system wide boosting ? I for one wouldn't like the rorq sitting in the middle of a belt in nullsec for a boost, can anyone clear this up or does it stay limited to command ships and sub cap?


its going to be ALL boosting ships.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-04-28 22:44:30 UTC
blair Vyvorant wrote:
Was wondering with the changes to the boosting system if rorqs and orca will retain system wide boosting ? I for one wouldn't like the rorq sitting in the middle of a belt in nullsec for a boost, can anyone clear this up or does it stay limited to command ships and sub cap?


I've not seen any solid changes being proposed by CCP yet. For what I can tell this is simply a pipe dream of theirs, and when it comes to practically making it a reality then I don't think it is going to be as easy as simply waving a wand and removing it. So where exactly do you have this information from?
blair Vyvorant
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#18 - 2013-04-29 00:24:46 UTC
It very well might be a pipe dream, who knows, I was just wondering if the changes to boosting (if any) were to affect capital boosters or be restricted to sub cap Big smile
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#19 - 2013-04-29 00:33:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
blair Vyvorant wrote:
It very well might be a pipe dream, who knows, I was just wondering if the changes to boosting (if any) were to affect capital boosters or be restricted to sub cap Big smile

I don't understand what's all the buzz in this thread, as the last I read on boosting from CCP Fozzie was:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145763#post2145763
Did I miss something new?

Other posts:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2302150#post2302150

EDIT: Yes, I own a Rorqual. Yes, I have a max skill Rorqual pilot.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-04-29 00:49:24 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
blair Vyvorant wrote:
It very well might be a pipe dream, who knows, I was just wondering if the changes to boosting (if any) were to affect capital boosters or be restricted to sub cap Big smile

I don't understand what's all the buzz in this thread, as the last I read on boosting from CCP Fozzie was:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145763#post2145763
Did I miss something new?

Other posts:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2302150#post2302150

EDIT: Yes, I own a Rorqual. Yes, I have a max skill Rorqual pilot.


This. As for if they did make the change, I think CCP knows damn well that if they applied it to rorquals and orcas, that'd be a massive nerf to 0.0 mining, and the end of people running rorq links for their mining operations.
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