Wormholes

was confirmed in the exploration round table grav sites are gone period. even in WH space. said if any group could adapt to this it would be us

Why so much whining?

You can't handle having one deep space probe out watching for new sigs while you mine? At least you can just warp off in a hulk or w/e. Can't do that in a combat site....

Yes I could do that, but if anyone in my WH opens the static, Im stuffed.

What about people in the C2 I was in yesterday, they had 4 k162s.

The risk does not equal the reward from mining, and C1-C4s do not have enough to support many people without mining.

Anyway I realized that if I go back to 1 account, I have enough isk that I don't need to pay for my account for years.

On the other hand, it now means I only have to despawn Ladars to unclutter my system.
Which is what I thought you were going to say from the title...

Rather the point actually.

I realised I pay for 5 accounts but I don't get five times the fun. Not being able to do as I prefer with reasonable risk vs reward, I am closing 4 of my accounts and doing something less rewarding isk wise but still entertaining (though not as much fun as WH mining was). Also enabling me to sell of a whole pile of stuff and plex my one remaining account for years.

those who kill miners in W space are not pirates .. Also a point that you guys seem to be missing is the new discovery scanner will also show the sigs of non anoms. so you will get a general idea of what is there.. you will also be able to see new sigs with it. So if you kept a scout on your own static or kept your static closed you will see k162s as the appear and be able to just warp off and look at what might of happened. all these people who think this will change much for the competent miners in W space are kidding themselves, the only people who this will effect are the ones who were already dumb enough to get caught. I am really surprised the fact that u can now launch 7 probes at once has not caused more people to complain then this whole is now an anom thing .. cause were before if i bear was in a scan down site or safe they have about 10 seconds for me to drop 7 probes get them off dscan and recloak now its down to like 3 or less, so the window for you to see the cloaky hunter on dscan is now down to less then 1/3 of what it used to be. For the record i love the 7 probe change

This is what I was getting at earlier, where do you get this info? All I could see from the preview of the new onboard/discovery scanner, was that it showed anoms, but I did not see any sigs.
Are you 100% sure that it also shows an indication of a new signature that you then need to probe? That would make probing new sigs ******* easy, as you can also immediatly determine at what cluster they spawned.

actually, he is right. CCP soundwave did a demo here at the fanfest dureing eve keynotes and showed us the new jump tunnel (absolutly ******* awesome), BUT. he aslo showed the onboard scanner, witch showed anoms as green, and sigs as red.
to quote him after he did that scan "now im going to spawn a site, coz nobody wants to see me use hours to scan down that sig" (he was demonstrating the new hacking sig).

Anogra

Clicking Dscan every 30 seconds was hardly afk mining.

Now it is just too unsafe to be worth the trouble especially when you add on the logistical head ache.

Oh and as to warping out, when someone decloaks, not a hope in hell unless you have another ship webbing you.

it was shown in the keynotes and later shown at the exploration round table. Sig show up as orange and red on the discovery scanner :) another fun thing to note is how true sec will take effect .. WHs are all true sec -1 which will result in the 5% and 10% bonus asteroids spawning in the sites. So they kinda did increase the reward for the increased risk in Wh space. but yeah .. I'm dumb for you know listening and going to the round tables on these things