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Dev Blog: CSM8 Election Results

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#21 - 2013-04-28 00:48:36 UTC
I cannot believe people seriously complain about the STV system. CCP, please make the voting system harder next time, so even more of those morons get filtered out.

I kinda miss the numbers, how will we know how much support every candidate had? Imagine Jester says something stupid tomorrow and is banned from the CSM, what are we going to write in our sigs? Ugh

I'm quite content, everyone I had listed high on my list was elected, James, Chitsa, Mynnna, Jester. Hope you guys do a good job and enjoy your term :)

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Simvastatin Montelukast
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#22 - 2013-04-28 01:22:01 UTC
Ripard Teg

Yes, all my accounts voted for you.
It really sucks that you won. Now what am I going to do with all the time at work, that I used to read your blog?


this sucks
this sucks
this sucks....

Congrats.
Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#23 - 2013-04-28 07:52:04 UTC
Congratulations to the winners. It looks to be a solid CSM.

Best of luck to you all.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven.
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-04-28 08:07:42 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
I kinda miss the numbers, how will we know how much support every candidate had? Imagine Jester says something stupid tomorrow and is banned from the CSM, what are we going to write in our sigs? Ugh

The complete ballot file will be published on Monday. You won't know how anyone voted, but you will know how many people voted any particular slate of candidates. You can use this to verify the election using either the software Veritas wrote, or my version.

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#25 - 2013-04-28 09:41:13 UTC
STV is good. CCP getting out the vote? Very, very bad... Hoping for much more next year.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Frying Doom
#26 - 2013-04-28 10:02:08 UTC
Zappity wrote:
STV is good. CCP getting out the vote? Very, very bad... Hoping for much more next year.

That was the most CCP had ever done to get people to vote, by a long shot.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#27 - 2013-04-28 11:25:52 UTC
Kadl wrote:
I see you are continuing the fiction of the "peace time council." I had two friends not vote for the first time this year. It was directly related to the complicated voting method and problems with the system. They gave up after trying. I like STV, but not the method of voting presented.


What stopped them from just picking one guy they wanted to get in and voting for him?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#28 - 2013-04-28 11:26:38 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Zappity wrote:
STV is good. CCP getting out the vote? Very, very bad... Hoping for much more next year.

That was the most CCP had ever done to get people to vote, by a long shot.


Oh I don't know, Incarna was a pretty epic effort in that respect. Blink

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-04-28 11:50:19 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Kadl wrote:
I see you are continuing the fiction of the "peace time council." I had two friends not vote for the first time this year. It was directly related to the complicated voting method and problems with the system. They gave up after trying. I like STV, but not the method of voting presented.


What stopped them from just picking one guy they wanted to get in and voting for him?

That's exactly what I did and you got elected. Seems to be working just fine.
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#30 - 2013-04-28 11:51:33 UTC
Congratulations to the members of CSM8.

It's nice to see that "my" candidate made it . Smile
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2013-04-28 11:57:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Veshta Yoshida
Looks like a decent enough spread for the coming term which is hopefully going to be focused on LowSec/Piracy and Null Sovereignty.

Edit: I'll second the claim that the "Get out and Vote" efforts were insufficient. Links should be plastered all over the damn place; stickys in all forum subsections, press releases to gaming media, newsletters, MoTD in local chat even!

Spam that ****, spam it!
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#32 - 2013-04-28 11:59:40 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Zappity wrote:
STV is good. CCP getting out the vote? Very, very bad... Hoping for much more next year.

That was the most CCP had ever done to get people to vote, by a long shot.


Oh I don't know, Incarna was a pretty epic effort in that respect. Blink


Well, I'm certainly glad they didn't go THAT far!

Interesting role model in your sig. I take it you know what happened to his kingdom...

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#33 - 2013-04-28 12:23:52 UTC
I'm happy to see 2 of my top 3 ending up on the CSM.

And looking over the results I think it's going to be good resource for CCP and in the end for us.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#34 - 2013-04-28 12:30:00 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Zappity wrote:
STV is good. CCP getting out the vote? Very, very bad... Hoping for much more next year.

That was the most CCP had ever done to get people to vote, by a long shot.


Oh I don't know, Incarna was a pretty epic effort in that respect. Blink


Well, I'm certainly glad they didn't go THAT far!

Interesting role model in your sig. I take it you know what happened to his kingdom...


All i know is that he became a synonym for wisdom and he had over 1000 girlfriends.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
#35 - 2013-04-28 12:39:32 UTC
The vote was down for a number of reasons:

1. The mechanics of this "voting" system, if you can call it that, are a disaster. Enough people have commented on that.

2. Many people I imagine recognized that this system was geared to produce the result we got: a massive amount of people elected who are NOT interested in improving the game, but only motivated in increasing the income streams the for null sec cartels. Given the enormous amount of these streams today, one can only wonder if the motivation for goes beyond "ingame" uses of the cash.

3. The goons plastered over high sec a poster designed to suppress the high sec vote, where they broke the EULA and impersonated CCP, using the CCP logo, and it may have worked.

I am sure that all the graphs and spin that CCP will provide tomorrow will try to bury the fact that not only was the raw vote down 16% over last year, but the vote as a percentage of the overall electorate was down even more dramatically.

CCP, the electorate has spoken. They are tired of the gerrymandering and pandering to the null sec contingent, and the fact that the CSM is viewed quite rightly so as merely a lobbying instrument for the null sec cartels.

Until CCP actually has the CSM made up of people that more accurately represent the demographics of its customer base, the CSM will be viewed with the contempt that the player base demonstrated yet again by NOT voting.
DoToo Foo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-04-28 13:47:46 UTC
Congratulations to the incoming CSM.

For problems to fix : the unnecessary confusion over the qualifying round; the lack of need for a qualifying round, and the inability to 'vote above the line' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_voting_ticket).

Potentially allow candidates to provide a 'ticket' so that you can choose a primary candidate and are presented with a valid but non-binding voting recommendation.

http://foo-eve.blogspot.com.au/
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#37 - 2013-04-28 14:07:54 UTC
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
The vote was down for a number of reasons:

1. The mechanics of this "voting" system, if you can call it that, are a disaster. Enough people have commented on that.

2. Many people I imagine recognized that this system was geared to produce the result we got: a massive amount of people elected who are NOT interested in improving the game, but only motivated in increasing the income streams the for null sec cartels. Given the enormous amount of these streams today, one can only wonder if the motivation for goes beyond "ingame" uses of the cash.

3. The goons plastered over high sec a poster designed to suppress the high sec vote, where they broke the EULA and impersonated CCP, using the CCP logo, and it may have worked.

I am sure that all the graphs and spin that CCP will provide tomorrow will try to bury the fact that not only was the raw vote down 16% over last year, but the vote as a percentage of the overall electorate was down even more dramatically.

CCP, the electorate has spoken. They are tired of the gerrymandering and pandering to the null sec contingent, and the fact that the CSM is viewed quite rightly so as merely a lobbying instrument for the null sec cartels.

Until CCP actually has the CSM made up of people that more accurately represent the demographics of its customer base, the CSM will be viewed with the contempt that the player base demonstrated yet again by NOT voting.



Of the people that ran, who do you think failed to get elected that would have been under a "fair" system?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#38 - 2013-04-28 14:11:53 UTC
Also how can you, in all justice, complain about Goons telling hi-sec players not to vote when you spent the entire electio doing exactly the same thing?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-04-28 14:26:08 UTC
Wiu Ming wrote:
"This drop in voting has provided us with a new perspective on CSM interest from the playerbase..." then goes on to list some inane reasons as to why people didn't vote. I personally didn't vote because of the new STV system - it's horseshit imo and I don't have the time or the inclination to go through every. single. nominee. and *rank* them in order. Are you f**king kidding me?? It's time-consuming enough to go through the list and the matching programs etc. to pick just one.

you do realize that you didn't have to vote for any more of them then you wanted to, correct? I mean, personally, I only voted for the 3 I most wanted to see make it, in the order I felt appropriate.
stoicfaux
#40 - 2013-04-28 14:36:04 UTC
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:


3. The goons plastered over high sec a poster designed to suppress the high sec vote, where they broke the EULA and impersonated CCP, using the CCP logo, and it may have worked.


Eh? Seriously? Any details on this? If this really happened then I would be surprised that no one posted about it on the forums. Or it would mean that no one in the affected high-sec areas haunts the forums, which would be equally surprising.

/pics-or-it-didn't-happen

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.