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Been Playing EVE for about a month or 2, and Boy I'm I bored
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Saren Aposis
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-04-27 22:44:07 UTC
Now I have heard of people saying that I'm playing EVE wrong, and I don't doubt them.

Do you guy's have any idea how I could get out there and Do what I wanted to do? Fight and Bounty Hunt, Should I sell my procurer and buy a Rupture? or is there something better I could do?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2013-04-27 22:47:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
The Procurer isn't a combat ship, so ya, get into something else. Frigates are a recommended starting point.

Also join a PvP corp. Seriously. EVE is boring without friends.
Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-04-27 22:57:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Concurssi Mellenar
snip snap

He who controls the veld, controls the universe.
Saren Aposis
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-04-27 23:03:34 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The Procurer isn't a combat ship, so ya, get into something else. Frigates are a recommended starting point.

Also join a PvP corp. Seriously. EVE is boring without friends.






It's not that I was intending to use the procurer for fighting, I just want to know if I should sell it and Buy a Cruiser.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-04-27 23:26:25 UTC
Saren Aposis wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The Procurer isn't a combat ship, so ya, get into something else. Frigates are a recommended starting point.

Also join a PvP corp. Seriously. EVE is boring without friends.






It's not that I was intending to use the procurer for fighting, I just want to know if I should sell it and Buy a Cruiser.


If you don't have experience in how to PvP you will lose that cruiser probably to a single frigate

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Saren Aposis
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-27 23:27:55 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Saren Aposis wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The Procurer isn't a combat ship, so ya, get into something else. Frigates are a recommended starting point.

Also join a PvP corp. Seriously. EVE is boring without friends.






It's not that I was intending to use the procurer for fighting, I just want to know if I should sell it and Buy a Cruiser.


If you don't have experience in how to PvP you will lose that cruiser probably to a single frigate



Honestly I'm willing to do anything, Just along as I avoid mining and get into combat.
Haulie Berry
#7 - 2013-04-28 00:23:23 UTC
Dude. If you don't want to mine... don't.

There's this really annoying myth that (somehow) gets perpetuated that you simply MUST spend your Eve-youth watching mining lasers cycle for weeks on end. Don't buy into that ****. If you enjoy mining, mine. If you don't enjoy mining, don't do it.

I wouldn't recommend jumping into PvP in a cruiser, but definitely go do some combat (even PvE) in a frigate, and start training in that direction.
Dyphorus
Inritus Astrum
#8 - 2013-04-28 00:29:16 UTC
You want to shoot people, and you're flying a procurer?

Then yes you're doing it wrong. Join one of the thousand+ PvP guilds. Fit PvP ships. Stop shooting rocks.... win!
Haulie Berry
#9 - 2013-04-28 00:37:32 UTC
Also, re: mining myth - it's amazing how pervasive that myth is, too. I had some RL friends pick up the game a few years back.

First thing I told them: Whatever you do, don't mine. It's boring and you will not enjoy it. There are better things to do. Train some combat skills, run some level 1 missions for a little income while you're doing that, and in a few days I'll take you guys out for some PvP.

First thing they do? Form a little corp and start noob mining ops in cruisers. They didn't make it two weeks.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-04-28 02:01:27 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Saren Aposis wrote:
Now I have heard of people saying that I'm playing EVE wrong, and I don't doubt them.

Do you guy's have any idea how I could get out there and Do what I wanted to do? Fight and Bounty Hunt, Should I sell my procurer and buy a Rupture? or is there something better I could do?


Wait...you want to PvP and bought a procurer and started mining...YES you are playing EVE wrong.

If you want to PvP....go PvP, don't go mining.


As for PvP...baby steps, lots of baby steps.

Start to crawl, then try to stand up, eventually take some steps and start walking....and in the end, you will run marathons.

So, pick a frigate and go PvP. Don't start with a cruiser as when you start you WILL loose ships. Better to loose cheap frigates over more expensive cruisers.

And get into a corp / group of people that like to PvP and in the same time teach you a thing or 2.

There are plenty of corporations out there they will do this:

Brave Newbies and RvB are the more known ones, but there are loads and loads of other corps like that.


Also, keep in mind that bounty hunting in itself isn't much of a profession. This because a bounty doesn't change CONCORD mechanics and thus will still means that if you shoot a random bounty person in high-sec you:

A. Will turn criminal for 15 minutes (standard combat flag for unauthorized shooting of others in high-sec).
B. Will loose sec status
C. Will loose your ship anyway to CONCORD

Also, bounties will pay out 20% of the loss value of the kill. So even if someone has 1 trillion ISK bounty, if you kill him in a 1 million ship, you only get 200.000 ISK in pay out. The rest will stay in the bounty pool, so pick your targets very very carefully.

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-04-28 03:49:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
Its not very hard to earn enough isk to pay for 2 or 3 lost frigs a day. Try station trading. You can log a character with 1 week of training on for 10 min a day. They never need to leave tje station and they will make enough isk to burn down a few frigs no prob.

Edit: or just sell a plex every month or two. No grinding, mining, pve of any sort and I find it rewarding when I don't give a flying rats as$ about losing a cruiser with meta 4 guns on it.

Edit 2: grab a bunch of friends and set up a battle barge. You be the bait/point man. They will appreciated it and it's always nice to be on a km in a mining barge.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#12 - 2013-04-28 06:41:12 UTC
Juraj Dobrila
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-04-28 06:50:12 UTC
If you want to fight, since apparently all you've done so far is mine(kudos on lasting two months, most people quit in two weeks because of this... disease) then start by running some security missions. Immediatelly going for PvP would be like trying to learn how to swim by jumping into an ocean. Shark-infested.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#14 - 2013-04-28 07:19:29 UTC
If you want PvP, consider joining Faction Warfare. PvP, and get paid to do it.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Andres Talas
The Industrial Supremacy
Autonomous Droneland Collective
#15 - 2013-04-28 14:54:50 UTC
Concurssi Mellenar wrote:
Brave Newbies Inc. now recruiting!


Look, under the rules of this forum, I cant say that.

But I can say that EvE is more fun when you're shooting at ships you've never heard of.
Andres Talas
The Industrial Supremacy
Autonomous Droneland Collective
#16 - 2013-04-28 14:56:12 UTC
Juraj Dobrila wrote:
If you want to fight, since apparently all you've done so far is mine(kudos on lasting two months, most people quit in two weeks because of this... disease) then start by running some security missions. Immediatelly going for PvP would be like trying to learn how to swim by jumping into an ocean. Shark-infested.


Meta zero tech one frigates.

Pandemic Legion.

Warp to zero.

If he'll get in the ship, and X up for fleet, he'll be fine.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#17 - 2013-04-28 17:47:17 UTC
Juraj Dobrila wrote:
If you want to fight, since apparently all you've done so far is mine(kudos on lasting two months, most people quit in two weeks because of this... disease) then start by running some security missions. Immediatelly going for PvP would be like trying to learn how to swim by jumping into an ocean. Shark-infested.


Disagree strongly with this. Security missions are barely even related to ship-on-ship PvP. The newbie-you-must-run-missions myth is just as pervasive and just as harmful as the newbie-you-must-mine myth.

PVE blows. This is known.

The best way to jump right into PvP is to join a corp that will give you the opportunity to get in lots of casual, newbie-friendly fleets. Trying to start out solo PvPing is not impossible, but can be very challenging, and many people find it frustrating in the early months. The two best organizations in the game for this are RvB and Brave Newbies Inc. Having tried both, my vote is for BNI.

Don't overlook opportunities for piracy, either. If your current corp runs mining ops, for example, show up in a destroyer and murder them all one day, or tackle their Orca and hold it for ransom. Piracy can be a lot of fun, and is actually quite low-SP friendly in many cases.

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Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-04-28 19:57:30 UTC
Juraj Dobrila wrote:
If you want to fight, since apparently all you've done so far is mine(kudos on lasting two months, most people quit in two weeks because of this... disease) then start by running some security missions. Immediatelly going for PvP would be like trying to learn how to swim by jumping into an ocean. Shark-infested.

If you want to pvp then pvp do not do missions.

If you want to run missions then run missions.

To pvp in EVE all you need to do is have a ship and you're set. You can pvp anywhere in EVE if you are willing to accept the consequences for your actions (100% guarantee of ship loss in highsec for example plus security rating being lowered) so there is no reason, at all, to do any other activity if you don't want to.

As you learn to pvp you will learn how to make ISK doing it but the only way to pvp is to do it.

To answer the question regarding the procurer: yes, sell it and buy a frigate that interests you. If you feel like you want to try out a cruiser then use a cruiser. Just go for it but be aware that you will probably lose it so be prepared to finance a replacement (or ten). As you explore the pvp element of the game you will find ways to self-finance without "having" to run missions or mine or do any of that stuff. Or, you can finance your ship losses that way if you want to. It's up to you.

I know many people in EVE who only pvp and finance their ship losses from their pvping. It can be done. If you think about it logically - ships drop 50% of what they had fit plus salvage. So, if you win a few fights or find wrecks floating in space you can make enough ISK to buy new ships.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-04-28 20:37:35 UTC
Fractal Muse wrote:
Juraj Dobrila wrote:
If you want to fight, since apparently all you've done so far is mine(kudos on lasting two months, most people quit in two weeks because of this... disease) then start by running some security missions. Immediatelly going for PvP would be like trying to learn how to swim by jumping into an ocean. Shark-infested.

If you want to pvp then pvp do not do missions.

If you want to run missions then run missions.

To pvp in EVE all you need to do is have a ship and you're set. You can pvp anywhere in EVE if you are willing to accept the consequences for your actions (100% guarantee of ship loss in highsec for example plus security rating being lowered) so there is no reason, at all, to do any other activity if you don't want to.

As you learn to pvp you will learn how to make ISK doing it but the only way to pvp is to do it.

To answer the question regarding the procurer: yes, sell it and buy a frigate that interests you. If you feel like you want to try out a cruiser then use a cruiser. Just go for it but be aware that you will probably lose it so be prepared to finance a replacement (or ten). As you explore the pvp element of the game you will find ways to self-finance without "having" to run missions or mine or do any of that stuff. Or, you can finance your ship losses that way if you want to. It's up to you.

I know many people in EVE who only pvp and finance their ship losses from their pvping. It can be done. If you think about it logically - ships drop 50% of what they had fit plus salvage. So, if you win a few fights or find wrecks floating in space you can make enough ISK to buy new ships.


Bold part is incorrect.

Ships don't drop 50% of the items.

Every item on the ship has a 50% chance of being dropped.

Those things are NOT the same. I have seen kills where only 1 thing dropped from a long list of cargo, and others were almost all items dropped.

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Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-04-28 21:12:20 UTC
J'Poll wrote:

Bold part is incorrect.

Ships don't drop 50% of the items.

Every item on the ship has a 50% chance of being dropped.

Those things are NOT the same. I have seen kills where only 1 thing dropped from a long list of cargo, and others were almost all items dropped.

Okay, on average 50% of stuff will drop over the long term depending on the loot faerie.

Better? ;)
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