EVE General Discussion

That was the BEST DJ EVERRRRRR!

What? Are you smoking crack? How is this an "Expansion" it adds absolutely nothing new what so ever, it's all graphics and balance and some fixes. It's NOT an expansion, it's a polish update and nothing more. Still, good polish regardless but stop calling it an expansion.

Don't forget how CCP stole money out of my wallet in game and out.

Party is over :(

The fanfest did not deliver many new toys and dust is taking space, but CCP is fixing and balancing all the stuff we previously complained they should fix instead of introducing new things. They make EVE a better game, they listen to the players like never before (they also hire dedicated ones), they take the CSM into account.

I felt a little disappointing about the presentations but what it looks like to me, is that fixing broken stuff is taking most of the resources. I talked with some developers and not what they had to say about the design or features it got me thinking but the fact that they are really dedicated, honest people that love what they do and that gave me great hopes for the future.

See U next year !

I'm just glad the alliance panel made it to the stream.

Bitter Vets :D

You guys need to quitcher..... big time.
Let the Dustbunnies have their moment, here. We all know we are who they call when they need an orbital bombardment, because they picked a fight with a bigger kid that has better toys and more friends. My Hyperion is standing by, waiting its turn to provide my smooth Gallente voice to reassure those crazy groundpounders, right before the railgun rounds hit.

CCP is a business. They provide a product. That product is EVE. There are thousands and thousands of people who use that product, and as old dogs fade away, CCP needs to draw in the new guys to keep making money and provide a place for those of us who choose to stay.

It's like the argument about the damn birthday present, every year. I'm happy to get SOMETHING. They don't have to give us anything, at all. You don't go to someone else's birthday party, expecting to RECIEVE a present, do you? Just simmer down, because if you crybabies screw up this Gnosis thing for me, I will pod you all.


Now, my rum and coke glass is empty. What do you propose we do about this, hm?

There are points that are being completely missed that need to be pointed out.

1. DUST is Eve and Eve is DUST. The fact that a company is not only expanding their IP but integrating as well is awesome just through the sheer fact that it has NEVER been done before. EVE is about evolving war, and DUST definitely evolves the war aspect of the game. CCP has worked hard in implementing DUST and they have every right to highlight what they have accomplished. And anything that actually adds more to both the lore and the universe of EVE is a good thing.

2. Odyssey is fine IMO. They did point out multiple times that what Odyssey is doing is laying the ground work for some major future content. CCP has always endeavored to add things in ways that enhance the lore of the EVE universe and build on it and that is what they are doing. There was also mention by Unifex that the last few expansions have not added much to the game in ways that things like Apocrypha did since they have mainly be fixes, updates, and re-balancing things. He also stated that they plan (now that major ground work has been done) that they plan on moving back towards the bigger more substantive expansions over the next few years.

3. Is there work that still needs to be done? YES! and they are doing it. POS's still need to be fixed, sov mechanics need fixing, etc etc etc. While I admit that after last years discussion about actual modular POS's I was hoping for something along these lines to be presented I am not totally disappointed in the things that were presented.

4. What too many in EVE fail to remember is that CCP has a vision of being the best SCI Fi MMO on the market, and a true SCI FI experience must offer more than just one aspect to be all encompassing. What we have had over the past 10 years is ships (which we all love) but what CCP wants to accomplish is a bigger vision than just what we currently have, and there is nothing wrong with them wanting to bring a true SCI FI experience to life.

You'll note that the EVE Online Keynote was 100% about EVE Online, the DUST 514 Keynote was 100% about DUST 514, while the CCP Presents keynote was about CCP. It was more intended for investors and the media than for DUST or EVE players. Since DUST 514 is CCP's major public project right now (as opposed to WoD which is still under wraps, and EVE Online which is a going concern), that's where the focus of attention was.

Specific feedback will be more useful to CCP than "whaaaa whaaa DUST 514". For example, you might state that you don't understand why there was such an exposé about soon-to-be-released DUST 514 weapons and vehicles, rather than a higher-level overview of the future of DUST 514.

FWIW the media have paid more attention to the EVR project than anything else in FanFest 2013 so far

1. DUST is EVE.

2. There is a huge amount of changes and things coming this summer.

3. its clear you arn't a programmer

4. What CCP uses its cash on is up to CCP. They are a games company, we should thank them for investing so mush isk into EVE for so long unlike just about every other games company out there.

5. So don't buy the egg.