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FanFest Impressions

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Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
#61 - 2013-04-27 21:50:56 UTC
omg this art panel was so painfull LOL

but jeah u cant sell this kind of product named HD-Stream.

And the Video-guy forgot sometimes to focus the camera on the slides, i was like wtf is he doing.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-04-27 21:53:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
I can't really judge the DUST part of the CCP Presents keynote as I don't play DUST.

But the parts of the presentation that I did understand were almost exclusively about "How can we monetize the EVE IP in new ways without risking to lose focus?"

I guess that's a pretty interesting question if you are into product development, marketing or consider investing into CCP stock.

But as an EVE player "10 new ways to get more of your money by employing partners to produce & sell EVE merchandise" was not really what I had been looking for.

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Sobach
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2013-04-27 21:58:49 UTC
Gnoshia wrote:
Yep. Sadly people will (and are) defending CCP over this. And it makes me angry because with people defending CCP over crap "expansions" like this gives CCP the go ahead to release MORE crap "expansions" because they know it's impossible to make the fan boy player base unhappy or dis-satisfied and they can divert their development and resources to other (dust) games and get get away with it.

Really infuriating.


Please do leave and let the door hit you on your way out, preferably multiple times.
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#64 - 2013-04-27 22:12:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Demica Diaz
I think it was great fun. I enjoyed it quite alot. Even though I know that I will never play Dust514 myself, I dont feel like part of the EVE was somehow in shadow of Dust514. People were roaring when Odyssey features were shown, well maybe not when hacking tool was presented as it made me scratch my head a bit (It didnt look nor feel like... EVE, more like something from Dust). Overall I think CCP did good job there and it seems like people had fun.
Damion Rayne
Panoptic
#65 - 2013-04-27 22:25:06 UTC
Huge disappointment.

80% of fanfest was, "How can we make dust awesome and forget about eve? Like this! DUST DUST DUST!" and "how can we make more money without going F2P in Eve To?"

ROA

FFV
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2013-04-27 22:52:34 UTC
Can someone point out which VODs I should watch for the EVE content? Im really confused looking at the twitch page, there are so much videos 6+ hrs, I dont have time to watch all this. Saw the 1 hr Eve keynote, was this the main announcement about odyssey, or was there more at fanfest?
Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
#67 - 2013-04-27 22:53:39 UTC
FFV wrote:
Can someone point out which VODs I should watch for the EVE content? Im really confused looking at the twitch page, there are so much videos 6+ hrs, I dont have time to watch all this. Saw the 1 hr Eve keynote, was this the main announcement about odyssey, or was there more at fanfest?



its quit all of eve content, the other vods are mostly the same stuff....
Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force
#68 - 2013-04-27 23:11:42 UTC
I loved most of the big news ccp dropped for the next expansion and for the future. But I do agree there was a bit too much dust and real life lectures transmitted over the stream. I would like to have watched them as vods later but the stream seemed to lack something at times and that was eve stuff and news.

I'm really looking forward to the future of eve (including dust) but with the actual stream I would have preferred to see more eve bits. Also please please please can you start recording the round tables etc and at least release them as vods or audio files. Oh and shoot your production team there was some extremely sloppy bits of the stream especially with the audio.
Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#69 - 2013-04-27 23:38:26 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
I was actually pretty appalled. Like you said, 80% was about Dust, then just so much product plugging; CCP clothing, the PSVita, the VR headset, the EVE comic, the EVE collectors edition, EVE book etc. etc. Watching the stream I felt very much like I was being pitched item after item to try and take my money. I was in two minds about going, and I'm now pretty glad I didn't go, apart from a nice couple of changes to EVE, the rest was about Dust, mobile, other projects etc.

tl:dr - Unimpressed.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#70 - 2013-04-28 00:09:09 UTC
People get shocked that CCP say many things about dust in the year dust goes live.

In other news, CCP have announced a tonne of stuff to do with space things that is going to keep the forum warriors busy for at least the next six months.
Ckra Trald
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-04-28 00:25:19 UTC
CCP needs to make EvE fanfest Eve Fanfest!

Not dust fanfest, it feels like they just crammed tons of stuff in for advertising and not having to rent the place for longer

http://www.rusemen.com/ Join Tengoo xd

Gogela
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#72 - 2013-04-28 00:33:04 UTC
It was pretty flat. Not a lot of reveals. I got the feeling they don't know what they are really going to do with eve. Player built stargates and new modular POS system would be cool... but I got the sense it was just "cloud talk" and nothing was really in development yet. Guess we'll see... yah not much interesting new info. Maybe they'll make up for it with blogs...

At least we get a Genosis though! Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
#73 - 2013-04-28 00:33:38 UTC  |  Edited by: DelBoy Trades
Gnoshia wrote:
Yep. Sadly people will (and are) defending CCP over this. And it makes me angry because with people defending CCP over crap "expansions" like this gives CCP the go ahead to release MORE crap "expansions" because they know it's impossible to make the fan boy player base unhappy or dis-satisfied and they can divert their development and resources to other (dust) games and get get away with it.

Really infuriating.

I couldn't agree more. Not sure why people keep defending CCP over this, are they expecting a pat on the back? All they are doing is showing indifference to them spending less development resources on EVE and more on Dust and mobile bullshit, I doubt most of these forum warriors even play anymore...

TL:DR - Pissed off at forum warriors playing devil's advocate because they've got nothing going on.

Damn nature, you scary!

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#74 - 2013-04-28 00:48:58 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Not sure why people keep defending CCP over this
Simple: because they're offering a solid expansion with much-needed and long-awaited changes, along with more tools for us to create gameplay.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
WE FOWM W0LTA
#75 - 2013-04-28 00:54:23 UTC
Sorry dudes, but I'm going to defend CCP here. I understand your frustration that Fanfest may not have been completely full of EVE Online content, but does this not show that New Eden is expanding and the continued integration of DUST 514 as part of the same universe? Fanfest 2014 is going to be very interesting but I do wonder if 3 days will be long enough to cover everything next time.

With regards to Odyssey, I believe many of the changes introduced will be as awesome for the game as Retribution turned out to be. I strongly believe CCP are going down the right path with the emphasis of enabling players to drive content, rather than short term attention grabbing Jesus Features.



Marcus Arcturus
Promethean Industries
#76 - 2013-04-28 00:56:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Arcturus
I've had a truly awesome time. The round tables were generally interesting and the Key Notes had some great moments. I was as ecstatic as the rest of the crowd when they mentioned the change to scanning but a chill went up my spine when CCP Seagull suggested we we are going to get to build star gates and that Dust Mercenaries would become our boarding parties in fleet warfare.

Bur most of the value I'll take away didn't happen on the stage. I got to chat with Zapatero (EON Magazine's fomer editor) about the great moments in EVE history and it's wonderful characters; I met Seleene and some of his wing mates and heard first hand of the rise and fall of BDCI and the Mercenary Coalition; CEO Hilmar sat at my table at dinner and conveyed his passion for the game, his vision and the talented people he has gathered around him; CCP Rippley the mother Godess, Thor-like CCP Xhagen and CCP Dolan a talented team builder were delighted I crossed the room to introduce myself; CSM members Trebor, Two Step and Hans Jagerblitzen all had time to chat about the game.

And I haven't mentioned the married couple from Indiana who've tried all the other games and decided this is the one; the 39 year old software engineer who fell in love with Elite as an 8 year old and now camps gates preying on industrialists like me happily telling me tactics for avoiding them; the Swedish business owner who makes Capitals for a null sec alliance sharing with me insights on moon-mining in hostile territory.

I come away not being able to decide which is more interesting, the EVE stories or the real stories but certain that this game is touching an immense cross section of society, in every demographic, in every corner of the world, many more of whom I can now call friend all because I decided to spend a weekend in April in Iceland with a bunch of people who also love this game.

Note to self: that was a great decision.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#77 - 2013-04-28 00:57:05 UTC  |  Edited by: mechtech
Gogela wrote:
I got the feeling they don't know what they are really going to do with eve.]


I definitely got that feeling, the grand vision is sort of gone now that they have strict limits on what kind of content they can introduce after the Incarna fiasco. That said, the direction they are taking is a good one, as in it won't hurt the game.

I really enjoyed hearing from Kristoffer Touborg. He is an extremely talented game designer, and it's great to hear his thought processes when it comes to new features/ideas and the future of Eve. Ideas like "less places, bigger places", the war on loading bars, the in space scanner sweep, and the new minigame (which while odd, is a creative way for people to bring friends. 10x better than the "50% income bonus per person" approach that CCP of the past would have.) are just spot on, and could transform eve into a much more social and engaging game.

If we get a year or two of adding features like in space scans and the new jump animations, Eve is going to be so much more enjoyable to play, and new player retention will skyrocket. Assuming Dust doesn't tank in the meantime, I think it will be appropriate to talk about bigger things again, but for now CCP is playing it safe, and doing a damn good job of it. Doesn't make for an exciting fanfest, but oh well Smile
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#78 - 2013-04-28 00:59:45 UTC
I loved the stream, more changes of pants needed in 3 days than expected!

Going to have to finally make the effort to go there next year.

Very excited about the announced changes, and the hinted at ones
None ofthe Above
#79 - 2013-04-28 01:00:12 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Tippia wrote:
Nah. It was ok, and to be expected.

The only thing that was missing was silly CCP internal videos and self-referential skits. No HTFU or CCP Space Program. Pah! Cry


There was no silly space program this time, because this year the CCP Space program was for realz:

Asteriod Mining - http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208258
FTL - http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2204012

And unfortunately the most exciting to me is not available as a link - Lunar Elevator with today's technologies.

EDIT: Space Elevator - http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2213503 (link now available)

CCP actually helped fund a Kickstarter for one of the most concrete ideas to revolutionize space exploration (and exploitation) that could happen in the next decade.

Now that's expansion of the serious bizness of spaceships.

Odyssey is pretty exciting too as I see it, it could have been more, sure. New space would have been fantastic and that's clearly were we are going later.

I am fully prepared to criticize CCP when warranted. But in this case I think the people that are complaining are just showing that they are pretty much impossible to please.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.

None ofthe Above
#80 - 2013-04-28 01:08:07 UTC
Florian Kuehne wrote:
The funny thing is, they said like 100 times today that DUST is free but who pays for it? wait....

IF CCP brings stuff like incursions, brings a big bunch of important fixes and big stuff like this then we can talk.


Dust is free to play but is making a ton of money on microtransactions in BETA.

Earlier announcements stated that they financed the development and its not coming out of revenue from eve players. If anything it is giving EVE more resources to work with, as far as I can tell.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.