Missions & Complexes

Kranny you sexy beast I missed you so much.

Are Vanguard sites too dangerous to run solo? Like a AC Loki?

To Put Kodavor’s brief post in perspective let say you do go into a site solo this is what you would have to deal with in a NMC.

First you need to kill the Mara (always one, no more no less) as this in a Sansha Nation Logistics, and not killing it will see most of your shots repped before your next weapons cycle.

Then you will need to get some of the other dps off the field I would suggest starting with the Romi (between 2 and 5 of these) but when these get to their optimal of 20km and start to orbit at speeds of 200m/s to 1,500m/s they are really hard to kill.

If by some Miracle you have managed to get this far you still will have a wing of Eyestur’s (3 to 5) and Schmaeel’s (3 to 5) to deal with.

So you finish this wave and the next one starts with Niarja (1 to 3 ) this guy will jam you before the first shot and with the accompanying wave of Tamas and Eysturs with 2 to 6 Auga and Romi cruisers.

You’re not done yet! one last wave of Niarj, Romi, and Tama. Then go mine a Lyavite Asteroid in site for 255 units to drop in the can that spawns after the last rat dies to blow up the factory (Some game lore here; the lyavite reacts badly to the processes in the factory causing it to blow up).

Yes I was a real bad ass Mission runner and never found a mission I couldn’t solo one way or another . So when I heard it took 9 to 10 pilots I was sure they weren’t referring to pilots like me, I tried to solo one of these sites (one ship lost in a matter of seconds).

TL;DR You would need to tank over 3000dps and do at least 2500dps to 3000dps to survive the first wave, second wave would jam you and it would be all over but the crying.

Also note that the Sansha rats will warp scram you. So unless you can align fast and GTFO, it will be a one ship enter - one pod leave scenario.

Well I just read all 10 pages :/

Just re-activated my account so thinking of giving Incursions a go. I tried it back in my old corp occasionally but think I'll concentrate on them a bit more this time round. I trained mainly Amarr and armour but have some shield skills as well, just don't have the right ships for shield tanking. I can be in a Paladin pretty quickly, just need to train Marauders.

What would be a good shield tank ship to aim for with my current skills? I'm assuming my worst problem is going to be training the guns after training whatever BS you suggest. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Tzarlena

EDIT: Nvm, think I've answered my own question. Nightmare it is then.

LoL this guy.= D

I wonder about minimal amount of ships to run these sites (not solo, but next tier ones) :
- for example: 3 rr tengus or 5 rr tengus or 5 rr navy scorpions
- would be unprofitable due to mechanics I guess, but might be interesting exercise in futility :)

You want to get Controlled Bursts to 5. It will help a lot with capacitor problems.

Sorry for the slow reply, my forum alerts have not been working for the last week or so.

TVP tends to have fleet up and running 23.5 hours a day. for the early EU TZ I have seen ICU pretty active some days, and TDF runs armor fleets whenever they have the manpower on.

ISN is pretty strong in the EU TZ but does not usually have fleet up till a couple hours after DT.

Of course pretty much any group that has an FC on is willing to run any time the FC says 'Go' but getting 9 guys on at the same time is a hit or miss thing a lot of the time.

Have to run right now, but will try to get some more specific times and post them when I get them.

Reading this thread, I get the impression lasers are rather useless for incursions. I guess I picked the wrong race of ships and weapons to skill up as a new player.