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Mike Azariah for CSM8 - Representing YOU

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Frying Doom
#121 - 2013-04-18 22:12:21 UTC
Before the polls close

How do you feel about the new STV voting system?

Do you understand it?

How do you feel about fact we can only identify 2 members of CSM7 who supported it?

Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
None ofthe Above
#122 - 2013-04-18 22:51:34 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Frying Doom wrote:
Before the polls close

How do you feel about the new STV voting system?

Do you understand it?

How do you feel about fact we can only identify 2 members of CSM7 who supported it?

Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?


Well this guy named Frying Doom says STV is good, so who are the rest of us to argue:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897414#post2897414

Backup link:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897645#post2897645

FYI - If numbers are low, I think we can point CCP's lame GOTV campaign rather than STV, or at least it muddied the waters enough so we can't really tell.

PS - I still like Mike. Go vote for him!

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Frying Doom
#123 - 2013-04-18 22:56:32 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Before the polls close

How do you feel about the new STV voting system?

Do you understand it?

How do you feel about fact we can only identify 2 members of CSM7 who supported it?

Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?


Well this guy named Frying Doom says STV is good, so who are the rest of us to argue:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897414#post2897414

Backup link:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897645#post2897645

FYI - If numbers are low, I think we can point CCP's lame GOTV campaign rather than STV, or at least it muddied the waters enough so we can't really tell.

PS - I still like Mike. Go vote for him!

You just posted 2 threads that say exactly what I am asking.

STV is good, with high voter turn out, that is why I asked "Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?"

But I was asking the candidate their opinion of it, as where I live has an STV system, with compulsory voting, so I am aware of the fact that in low percentile areas STV blocks all but the party candidates.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
None ofthe Above
#124 - 2013-04-18 23:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Frying Doom wrote:

You just posted 2 threads that say exactly what I am asking.

STV is good, with high voter turn out, that is why I asked "Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?"

But I was asking the candidate their opinion of it, as where I live has an STV system, with compulsory voting, so I am aware of the fact that in low percentile areas STV blocks all but the party candidates.


Whereas FPTP elections are just wonderful for independent candidates. Roll

My point and your point aren't actually that far from each other:

To get better representation of the playerbase in the CSM you need: a good election system like STV AND higher voter turn out.

They achieved one, with some stumbles and not so much two, but as we are not getting stats on voting, we have no eveidence to go on.

I think it's pretty debatable that STV is worse, in this situation (particularly in advance of the results), but even if it is, perhaps the better solution would be to focus on what's left to do? Rather than your proposal which is apparently to undo the progress made.

What does seem to be clear to me, is this system gave at least the hope that indy candidates could compete, and we saw a number of candidates campaign well and be well received enlivening the debates. Giving I hope the playerbase a better understanding of the issues.

Mike here was an example of that. Go vote for Mike!

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Frying Doom
#125 - 2013-04-18 23:22:32 UTC
Personally I belive the whole set of changes made to the White Paper need to go.

giving our votes less power by allowing CCP to decide 5 of the people who go to Iceland, plus the fact that the STV change looks like it was forced down the CSMs throat. Thats is why only 2 CSM members support the change publicly.

But as I argued all last year, education as to WHY people should vote is the key to the CSM

The fact that CCP has come forward praising CSM7 and a dev has gone off at a player over criticizing them does little to show that the CSM is not just a PR stunt for CCP.

Nor did a CSM member coming forward and saying the CSM has to be useful to CCP or it will be removed help because lets face it for a CSM to be useful to us the players during a crisis, it needs to speak for us and not be useful to CCP.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
None ofthe Above
#126 - 2013-04-18 23:42:17 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Frying Doom wrote:
Personally I belive the whole set of changes made to the White Paper need to go.

giving our votes less power by allowing CCP to decide 5 of the people who go to Iceland, plus the fact that the STV change looks like it was forced down the CSMs throat. Thats is why only 2 CSM members support the change publicly.

But as I argued all last year, education as to WHY people should vote is the key to the CSM

The fact that CCP has come forward praising CSM7 and a dev has gone off at a player over criticizing them does little to show that the CSM is not just a PR stunt for CCP.

Nor did a CSM member coming forward and saying the CSM has to be useful to CCP or it will be removed help because lets face it for a CSM to be useful to us the players during a crisis, it needs to speak for us and not be useful to CCP.


He went off on Poetic for posting ridiculous unsupported drivel. He got a like from me on that.

Just because a GM defends a CSM from unhinged criticism doesn't mean that CSM is a meaningless tool. There is plenty of players speaking about how much they value the CSM if you are open to seeing it. If you've got drama llama blinders on, you can focus on the outrageous trolls.

The rest of us will be busy discussing the actual pros and cons.

A gem in your post though:
Frying Doom wrote:
But as I argued all last year, education as to WHY people should vote is the key to the CSM


Couldn't agree with this more. Well except for the part where not to long ago you were encouraging people not to vote, but why quibble?

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Frying Doom
#127 - 2013-04-18 23:53:51 UTC
CSM 7 was not great for the CSM its self

Lack of communication with the playerbase

Lack of Transparency

Lack of separation, because honestly it looked more like they worked for CCP and less like they worked for us.

Look at all the comments in the voting treads, that was the worst I can remember it, the CSM needs to be seen, and it needs to be seen acting as our voice.

We should never have the situation where something like the STV system, where you cannot actually find out who supported it or something like the POS where the majority of the CSM seemed fine to leave us in the dark and wait for the screaming to start.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#128 - 2013-04-19 01:28:08 UTC
Now if we could just get all of these candidate threads un-stickyed Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2013-04-19 04:42:15 UTC
I would like to take this chance, BEFORE I am 'unstickied' to thank all of you who wrote here and wrote to me personally during this election.

Win or Lose it has been a great experience and I truly was touched by the endorsements and votes of support that I received.

Thank you all

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)/¯
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#130 - 2013-04-19 19:28:53 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
I would like to take this chance, BEFORE I am 'unstickied' to thank all of you who wrote here and wrote to me personally during this election.

Win or Lose it has been a great experience and I truly was touched by the endorsements and votes of support that I received.

Thank you all

m


I hope it works out. I had you at the top of my slate and I know I voted you #1 for all my accounts.

Good luck!!

Issler
Apricot Baby
caldariprimeponyclub
#131 - 2013-04-27 19:38:57 UTC
YES YES YES YES!!!

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None ofthe Above
#132 - 2013-04-27 19:53:34 UTC
You gorgeous effing unicorn you!

You beat the odds!

So proud of you, CSM Mike Azariah.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#133 - 2013-04-27 20:08:09 UTC
Mike,

A long overdue congratulations!!!

I expect great things from and for you in CSM 8!!

Way to go!

Issler
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#134 - 2013-04-27 20:10:12 UTC
Well done Mike Cool

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#135 - 2013-04-27 21:34:36 UTC
You made it! Now make it worth of the effing miracle you just incarnate... Lol
Apricot Baby
caldariprimeponyclub
#136 - 2013-04-27 22:57:16 UTC
Haha WHY IS IT RAINING INSIDE!

So many people are over the moon for you Mike! You should be very proud.

Unreleased Ships (Images) - www.imgur.com/a/uablN Unreleased Ships (Videos) - www.youtube.com/user/TanithAmberdemon Eve Celshader Project - www.imgur.com/a/5mn44
Frying Doom
#137 - 2013-04-27 22:58:57 UTC
Congratulations.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Jerod trd
BlackWatch Industrial Group
Memento Moriendo
#138 - 2013-04-28 11:28:09 UTC
Congrats Mike.

I agree that this is long-overdue, I hope you avoid the burnout that has plagued so many of those who have held the post before you...

Good Luck, and (in the long-standing tradition of those who have been promoted before you) May God have Mercy Upon Your Soul... Because the real work begins now.
Xander Phoena
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2013-04-28 13:43:59 UTC
About ******* time Mike ;)

<3

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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#140 - 2013-04-28 22:26:07 UTC
Congrats Mike and best of luck to you. Big smile