EVE General Discussion

Is the intent of the new hacking system to take a dump on exploration?

Magnetometric sites are mostly useless salvage. The same junk you can get from any wreck.

Gravimetric sites are useless to anyone, but miners. And even then, since they have no non-high sec ores they aren't particularly any better than standard belts. In fact, given the fact that you'd have to spend time to find them it is financially more prudent to just mine belts in terms of time vs. gain.

Wormholes are useless to anyone uninterested in wormhole space development, ladar or who aren't highly skilled players in extremely powerful ships seeing as anything worthwhile is guarded by Sleeper armadas.

Ladar is low sec/null exclusive and represents the only instance where scanning is crucial to mining. But again, they are useless to anyone who isn't a miner. Any ladar miner is capable of scanning down sites themselves so selling coordinates doesn't work in practice.

Radar sites are the ONLY profitable sites available to "pure" explorers. That is, people who explore for profit only and not as a means to some other end. It can be used to invention, but a non-inventors can make decent ISK selling manifestos and the like.

I've been playing for a little over a month. As an example, a few days ago I was exploring. I found a radar site in the first system I went to. I acquired 20 million in goods, which is above average. I normally find 8-10 mil per site. The next 13 systems I visited over the next few hours had a variety of useless signatures, mostly those god awful wormholes.

So now, with the changes in Odyssey, when I finally find that rare radar site I lose most of the goods. And you say I should bring a friend in order to get the most stuff???

1. ARE RADAR SITES GOING TO BE MORE PLENTIFUL?
2. IS THE AMOUNT CONTENTS OF HACKED CONTAINERS GOING TO INCREASE?
3. WILL WORMHOLES BE INSTANTLY IDENTIFIED AS SUCH SO PEOPLE CAN IGNORE THEM RIGHT OF THE BAT?

What "friend" is going to want to tag along as I scan down useless crap signatures for hours? And when I finally do find a radar site after spending all this time doing ALL the work I'm supposed to share what may be my only source of income with someone else?

Am I missing something?

And again. I guess the cloud I grabbed last week was just imaginary. Lime Mykoserocin now selling in Rens.

Wrong. Mag sites are one of the major sources for T2 loot.



Wrong. Grav sites can contain any ore.



Wrong. C1s and C2s are not very difficult and can easily be soloed by a 6 month old player.



Wrong. The combat ladar sites don't need any harvesting.

4 out of 5 wrong, you should attend more courses about exploring at E-Uni.



This is a MMORPG. As in Massively Multiplayer Online RPG.

Income in Eve should follow the Risk/Reward scheme, higher risk should result in a higher reward. Go to low or nullsec, the payout from the sites there is much higher and you have less competition.

I don't know a thing about grav sites, you mean? I have never found a single grav site with anything remarkable. So please, enlighten me. Making empty statements serves no purpose. If you're not going to tell me "what I'm missing", as I requested, why bother to reply at all?



I've never seen a ladar in high sec and during the career missions it was stated that they were extremely rare outside of low/null because the empires exhausted them. Either way, it doesn't matter. It's mining all the same.



The point is I don't know. Are they promising increased amounts of the current stuff? Or larger numbers of inferior goods with a few good things thrown in if you just so happen to pick them out of the bunch by chance?

I have never found a radar site with nothing. In every case there were four containers; 2 had goods and 2 were either empty or dysfunctional by design.

Nope, Magnetometrics are actually quite profitable in lower sec areas.


Nope, gravimetrics are worth mining. (if you're one of those dirty no good miners that is)


Nope, you can pretty comfortably daytrip to and do lower class WHs even in cheaper ships.


Nope, Ladars can be profitable and there are also some people who buy bookmarks for them.


Nope, as mentioned the other sites are quite good as well.



"I've been playing for a little over a month."

Yeah.

Y'all missed the point. Clearly the OP's point is: "EVE is Dying(tm)."

Spare me the condescending attitudes. Never seen a forum of people so angry for no other reason than anger it.

Which what makes it so fun. Angry folks are amusing. Now, can I sneer at you some more?

Spare the rod and spoil the n00b.
Biblical. I like it.

No need to get your panties in a bunch because you were wrong and it was pointed out. Most people dont take too kindly to listen to others whine, especially when the whiners barely know what they're talking about.