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chris Wiliams
Alien Gizmo's
#1 - 2013-04-27 17:49:46 UTC
please can someone give me a list of this years csm members and who is chairman of it thank you
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-04-27 17:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
http://i.imgur.com/nsigbtB.jpg is the candidates. Chair is voted by the members themselves once they start so you won't find that out until that happens.

http://i.imgur.com/QX4zvTj.jpg is the voting totals. 10k votes down from last year.

edit:
http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/your-csm

There's the official CCP list, in alphabetical order. Mynnna and Ripard Teg won the top 2 spots and the only confirmed seats to each Summit.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#3 - 2013-04-27 18:05:31 UTC
So much for the unstoppable bloc vote.


Quick, let's start working on excuses to note vote in CSM 9!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-04-27 18:10:58 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
So much for the unstoppable bloc vote.!


The one thing in life you can count on is not being able to count on Test :v

Still way more bloc candidates than FPTP and no Chair vote would have given, though.

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Friggz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-27 18:12:48 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
So much for the unstoppable bloc vote.


Eagerly awaiting Frying Doom's post on how he is still right.
corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-04-27 18:18:24 UTC
would be nice to see the actual voted numbers, are they releasing those ?
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-04-27 18:21:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
Friggz wrote:
Eagerly awaiting Frying Doom's post on how he is still right.


He was dead right about the pathetic turnout. Then again, everyone who wasn't a member of CSM 7 could have called that one with their eyes closed after seeing the record low number of candidates.


corebloodbrothers wrote:
would be nice to see the actual voted numbers, are they releasing those ?


They're going to release anonymized ballots so anyone interested can vet the results and make sure the results are sound. There's no actually voted numbers though, since once a candidate gets enough votes to win a seat in STV, their votes go elsewhere.

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Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#8 - 2013-04-27 18:24:28 UTC
I think a hearty HA! is due the doubters who thought WH folks couldn't get their **** together.
Friggz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-04-27 18:36:55 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Friggz wrote:
Eagerly awaiting Frying Doom's post on how he is still right.


He was dead right about the pathetic turnout. Then again, everyone who wasn't a member of CSM 7 could have called that one with their eyes closed after seeing the record low number of candidates.


The important thing is the system worked. For the bluster from the null sec blocks about how they'd take 12 seats, the CSM we got has a good amount of variety, and it managed that even without a huge turnout.

I'd say it's proved itself a success.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-04-27 18:38:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
Friggz wrote:
The important thing is the system worked. For the bluster from the null sec blocks about how they'd take 12 seats, the CSM we got has a good amount of variety, and it managed that even without a huge turnout.

I'd say it's proved itself a success.


THE SYSTEM IS A SUCCESS

*barely enough candidates even run*
*loses 10,000 votes even with CCP actually trying to promote the election for once*

That's Trebor Logic if I've ever heard it ;)

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Friggz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-27 18:43:05 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Friggz wrote:
The important thing is the system worked. For the bluster from the null sec blocks about how they'd take 12 seats, the CSM we got has a good amount of variety, and it managed that even without a huge turnout.

I'd say it's proved itself a success.


THE SYSTEM IS A SUCCESS

*barely enough candidates even run*
*loses 10,000 votes even with CCP actually trying to promote the election for once*

That's Trebor Logic if I've ever heard it ;)


*We get exactly what the system is designed to do, create a balanced CSM

THE SYSTEM IS A FAILURE

That's Goon logic if I ever heard it. ;)
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-04-27 18:50:58 UTC
This CSM is less diverse than last year. Candidacy dropped hugely from past years (even counting the deadzone pre-CSM 5 years). Votes dropped by 10k. And yet, this is a success because some wildly optimistic (and quite frankly stuipid) predictions about 10+ null candidates didn't happen?

You're straight into delusion territory at this point.

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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#13 - 2013-04-27 19:30:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde
Snow Axe wrote:
This CSM is less diverse than last year. Candidacy dropped hugely from past years (even counting the deadzone pre-CSM 5 years). Votes dropped by 10k. And yet, this is a success because some wildly optimistic (and quite frankly stuipid) predictions about 10+ null candidates didn't happen?

You're straight into delusion territory at this point.

Slightly beat out the number of votes for CSM6.

They seemed to do OK, and CSM8 has more diversity on it as well.

The story of this election seems to be Ripard Teg beating out Sort Dragon for one of the permanent seats (and Banlish, TEST's #1, not even making it). Turnout might be low but it looks like voting patterns are changing, possibly due to the new system. The day when 0.0 needs to combine into a 0.0 bloc instead of voting as coalitions might be coming sooner than a lot of people think.

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM
None ofthe Above
#14 - 2013-04-27 19:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Snow Axe wrote:
Friggz wrote:
The important thing is the system worked. For the bluster from the null sec blocks about how they'd take 12 seats, the CSM we got has a good amount of variety, and it managed that even without a huge turnout.

I'd say it's proved itself a success.


THE SYSTEM IS A SUCCESS

*barely enough candidates even run*
*loses 10,000 votes even with CCP actually trying to promote the election for once*

That's Trebor Logic if I've ever heard it ;)


I think the downturn can be laid at CCP's feet. Exemplified by the near zombie levels of enthusiasm in that get out the vote video.

Voting systems were a bit wonky. The primary a mess and buggy/evolving voting page.

And oh btw, four out of five ain't bad for my endorsements:
Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg

Psychotic Monk, hang in there. I think you did an excellent showing and have a good shot at CSM 9. In the mean time you can pull a Hans and work from the outside.

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None ofthe Above
#15 - 2013-04-27 20:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Snow Axe wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
So much for the unstoppable bloc vote.!


The one thing in life you can count on is not being able to count on Test :v

Still way more bloc candidates than FPTP and no Chair vote would have given, though.


I doubt that conclusion. It'll be interesting to run an analysis of FPTP with everyone's first pick though. That would be the closest approximation to a comparison of FPTP and STV.

EDIT: First post of this referred to "everyone's first prick". LOL. Terribly Freudian slip of me.

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2013-04-27 21:07:18 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
This CSM is less diverse than last year. Candidacy dropped hugely from past years (even counting the deadzone pre-CSM 5 years). Votes dropped by 10k. And yet, this is a success because some wildly optimistic (and quite frankly stuipid) predictions about 10+ null candidates didn't happen?

You're straight into delusion territory at this point.

Slightly beat out the number of votes for CSM6.

They seemed to do OK, and CSM8 has more diversity on it as well.

The story of this election seems to be Ripard Teg beating out Sort Dragon for one of the permanent seats (and Banlish, TEST's #1, not even making it). Turnout might be low but it looks like voting patterns are changing, possibly due to the new system. The day when 0.0 needs to combine into a 0.0 bloc instead of voting as coalitions might be coming sooner than a lot of people think.

While Banlish might have been Test's #1, he was the HBC's #3 and TEST used the HBC list.
Frying Doom
#17 - 2013-04-27 22:23:16 UTC
Friggz wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Friggz wrote:
Eagerly awaiting Frying Doom's post on how he is still right.


He was dead right about the pathetic turnout. Then again, everyone who wasn't a member of CSM 7 could have called that one with their eyes closed after seeing the record low number of candidates.


The important thing is the system worked. For the bluster from the null sec blocks about how they'd take 12 seats, the CSM we got has a good amount of variety, and it managed that even without a huge turnout.

I'd say it's proved itself a success.

Yes wonderful success.Lol

Did you notice that they didn't release the voter percentage this year. That is because the percentage will be the lowest we have seen in years.

As to the line up, It doesn't look bad at all. Just a shame that with the voter turn out it means that the CSM represents the lowest percentage of players in years.

oh and yeah I was right, STV does suck, we had the largest promotion by CCP ever and no one bothered to vote. Yes CSM7s lack of transparency and communication will not have helped, neither will the fact they just looked like a bunch of CCP cheerleaders (Well some of them). The players don't want a CSM that is a PR tool for CCP, they want a voice.

Hope that fits the post on how I am still right.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Friggz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-04-27 22:31:29 UTC
Meh. 2/10
Frying Doom
#19 - 2013-04-27 22:38:35 UTC
Friggz wrote:
Meh. 2/10

Yeah thats my opinion of the STV, glad you agreeLol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-04-27 22:47:28 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
I doubt that conclusion. It'll be interesting to run an analysis of FPTP with everyone's first pick though. That would be the closest approximation to a comparison of FPTP and STV.


Actually a closer approximation might have been last year when, you know, major blocs backed 1 candidate each.

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