Intergalactic Summit

I do not take joy in death in destruction, quite the opposite actually. However I do take joy in justice, and that is exactly what we got.

Your opinion is noted, as are their actions. When the dog bites, perhaps you will deem the merit of my opinion differently.

Ah, the joy of politics exploiting human misery.

Both parties are seriously starting to sound like two dogs fighting over a bone. Or the bones of quite a decent amount of victims, if I may add.

I wonder how all their families feel about that.

And justice is what we want and are being denied.


It's amazing how many of our enemies understand us better than our so-called "allies."

My apologies, sir. I'm rather poor with language and poetry, and both seemed to have failed me. I'll be more direct. The poem was trying to demonstrate the difference between justice and vengeance, which are very different and often conflated. I feel that instance was one of the latter, and can imagine no justice involving so gruesome a spectacle. I am not Gallente, however, sir, so will count this as an instance of cultural divergence. To us, justice is quiet and quick. Vengeance is slow and loud.

tt does not come as a surprise that we face again this old argument where the Federation thinks location decides jurisdiction, and the tribes think that blood does. Won't be the last time either, I suspect, though this is a rather high-profile case.

But... the victims were Matari. The culprit was a Federation citizen. And Federation courts think this means that they will be less biased than the tribal ones? What the?

Also, go home, Bloody Hands, you're drunk.

Where did I say I have any sort of confidence the Federation will listen to the Minmatar concerns in this?

Allies can disagree even when they refrain from using force to convince the other. Even the powerless and weak can disagree with the powerful. Something Amarrians are keen to forget and deny, but still a fact.

Nothing personal, but I hope you aren't proven right for the sake of New Eden. Though if that happens, you can personally send me an "I told you so" letter.



So they blatantly disregarded Gallente sovereignty, pointed guns at us, put hundreds if not thousands of gallente lives at risk hoping we would cooperate? That's not how an ally negotiates with an ally, that's how terrorist negotiate over hostages. They shouldn't be shocked by the fact we were a little less enthusiastic to consider their demands. I'm sure if the situation were reversed, they too would be rather upset if a Gallente fleet penetrated their space and demanded to let them through or they were going fight through.



No need to apologize, I'm actually quite horrible at comprehending poetry. Thank you for explaining though.

I can see how what happened could be more attributed to vengeance rather than justice. Though I personally feel that anything less than what happened would have left many Gallente, both mourning and outraged very displeased.

Vengeance can even be argued as a form of justice, "an eye for an eye" if you will. I don't necessarily condone that attitude with most crimes as it is a very brutal form of justice. However what happened was treason on a level never seen in the Federation, if not New Eden all together.




You're going to get justice. Us Gallenteans, your friends, are very skilled at delivering justice. You just have to be patient with us as there are a lot of things our process needs to cover regarding these unspeakable acts.

No, of course not. At first, I thought you were simply trying to be disingenuous in a clumsy way. Now it seems you are in fact "that simple," and genuinely do not understand the implications of your own "argument." In any event, we return to the original contention: jurisdiction is an exercise of power. If the wailing Matari Horde wants jurisdiction over the assassin whose gift keeps on giving, it's going to have to take it.

Is that simple enough?

Herein lies the crux,
the bloody beating heart
of wrath and ruin
love and hate
and all the best and worst.

When justice lies with pleasure,
then both may fall apart
as love of ruin
cannot sate
desires' endless thirst.

Justice is not about pleasure or displeasure. Intermingling them ruins both.