EVE General Discussion

Understand where I am coming from. I think the designers at CCP are intelligent people who do good work for the game and have worthy goals. It’s true, I have personally lamented the fact that design documents always included real at the expense of fun when considering new features to add into EVE when I thought both factors should be included. For example, the new multi-launch probe system with preset formations is both fun enhancing and feels real. It is a great addition to the game in my view.

However, the new system of hacking a hull by way of a mini-game that results in an explosion of goodies you and a pal have to run catch or lose looks to be a SILLY addition to play. It’s a feature more worthy of an action game that doesn’t take itself seriously instead of a a space sim like EVE. I think they should keep the goodies in a can to collect even if said can looks like a space ship to loot now. There are better ways to make exploration less of a solo activity but I am not sure they can kill multi-boxing on PC to get around this anyway as boxer can account for it.

I understand the need to make the game more accessible to new players. I understand making the game look nicer to improve its appeal with gate, docking, and new probe interface animations. It’s why I can accept the change in terminology for site names. But none of it should be done at the expense of actual, in-depth, play. Put it all together with the catch and grab mechanic and its like some one is looking to “dumb down” the game into an action game for PS4, tablets, mobiles, and novelty gadgets like Oculus.

There are enough shallow, pretty looking, little action games on the market right now and EVE’s intelligence, depth and breadth, is the only thing that keeps people here and playing as long as they do. I know the game has to grow and adapt but not at the cost of its core values with features like that.

Anyone got a video for this? As someone who explores I am interested.

Hmmm. Going point on eyesight. CCP, definitely avoid green-red -- green-red colorblindness is an issue. Possibly work with color intensity or something as such?

That said, imagine this: you're hacking open the cargo bay on an abandoned ship/structure/whatev. The bay opens, and decompression sends stuff flying. Voila.

I think it's a clever way to release goods, and incentivize group activity, something most scanning lacked before.

I still think screen size is a legitimate issue, its practically go big or get out, especially for people who play on some of the older laptops, it would be near impossible to click the little buggers (now i use a desktop that runs 3 clients on all max settings fine, but many of my friends dont)



also, as Talbot mentioned the minigame

i can see this ending BADLY for low/null sites, where you often try to nija and GTFO, good chance of getting targeted and popped while you havea big window in your face blocking everything, would definetly discourage these activities in sapce that isnt balls deep in blue, or highsec. similar reason to why i shoot down in any thread wanting to bring minigames to mining.

It really does. I'll check out this vid in a sec though. TBH I've been trying to get my friends into lowsec and a game like this could actually help with that.

Scanning is a minigame. It's just one in which the "terrain" affects it, along with player fittings.

That's too bad. I usually run radars and mags on my lunch break so when I play in the evenings I can go PVP. Doesn't sound like the new mechanic is going to suit me much as the entire appeal was that I could go roam around lowsec on my own and make some isk for an hour fairly efficiently.

Bleh, pretty disappointed

As long as they make it feel like a logical extension of existing gameplay mechanics, or at least a fairly "sci fi" minigame, I'm okay with it. Sounds like they're not going to do that though.

I hadn't really considered the screen size issue and it's true that we live in an age where the laptops are starting to outnumber the traditional PC even amongst game players. When it comes to the break through the firewall mini-game itself, again it is a play mechanic that doesn't seem to play out like a logical extension of piloting your ship but I could compromise it they work on it. Cobbled in twitch for a sim? I need to crack an active computer firewall to salvage parts from a centries old exploded derilect ship? None of this seems to have a place in EVE or to fit. As to how actual exploration might play out in low/null... IDK.

The twitch to get stuff that is jettisoned into space mechanic looks all manner of wrong, and is a backwards step. Especially due to the number windows that I generally have open, I just won't see most of them, due to them getting hidden behind chat windows/the overview, cargohold etc

The Hacking minigame thing? what the?? can someone actually explain how this is actually meant to work, seems more like he clicked on random crap on the screen. Again it looks to be a backwards step, especially again due to having multiple screens open and screen sizes and the like that other posters have mentioned.