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Price of Veld drop like a rock in Jita yet? Is Chribba threatening to jump out a window yet?
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#1 - 2013-04-26 20:03:19 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-shakeup-blog
Expect a BIG shift in low ends wealth to goto NULL where mining is much,MUCH SAFER in DEEP BLUE!

Looks like NULL SEC is getting all the benefits of resource distribution.... THATS WHAT HI SEC GETS FOR NOT VOTING IN CSMs PEvilTwistedBlink


Shocked these refines are HUGE Shocked
DEV NUMBERS wrote:


list of the affected ore types, with the amount of minerals that they provide for each refine volume. Changes are in brackets.

Arkonor: 10000 Tritanium (+9700), 166 Zydrine, 333 Megacyte

Bistot: 12000 Pyerite (+11830), 341 Zydrine, 170 Megacyte

Crokite: 38000 Tritanium (+37669), 331 Nocxium, 663 Zydrine

Dark Ochre: 25500 Tritanium (+25250), 500 Nocxium, 250 Zydrine

Gneiss: 3700 Tritanium (+3529), 3700 Mexallon (+3529), 700 Isogen (+357), 171 Zydrine

Spodumain: 71000 Tritanium (+67810), 9000 Pyerite (+8590), 140 Megacyte




THE ABC'S HAVE BECOME SUPERVELD'S & SUPER SCORDS!!! Ugh
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-04-26 20:04:19 UTC
Poor Chribba. He will be out of work.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2013-04-26 20:04:41 UTC
So, we needed another thread about this?

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-04-26 20:07:46 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
So, we needed another thread about this?



So, we needed another ISD?

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Jay Kreutzer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-26 20:08:04 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
So, we needed another thread about this?



just like we needed another one of your content-less posts pointing out what forum infraction/proper forum location other things should be on.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-04-26 20:11:24 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
where mining is much,MUCH SAFER in DEEP BLUE!

Man, I'd sure like to know the statistics on how many mining ships are killed per how many are active in certain areas of space.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#7 - 2013-04-26 20:19:25 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
where mining is much,MUCH SAFER in DEEP BLUE!

Man, I'd sure like to know the statistics on how many mining ships are killed per how many are active in certain areas of space.


like in Deep Delve?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Goon Gollum
#8 - 2013-04-26 20:47:54 UTC
MY PRECIOUS TECH IS BUFFED \Big smile/

Noooooo my precious TECH has been nerfed... GOLLUM GOLLUM
Camios
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-04-26 21:04:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Camios
With these changes,

  • spodumain will be the second best ore to mine for tritanium after veldspar
  • and the third best for pyerite after scordite and plagioclase.
  • gneiss will be the second best ore to mine for mexallon after plagioclase.


At current ore prices, 0.0 minerals should get an increase in value that will probably make them worth about as scordite is (at least). Arkonor is getting a 5-6% boost in value, for the other minerals the gain is more significant, Gneiss and Spodumain have had their value boosted by arond 100% and now spodumain/gneiss mining is competitive with scordite mining (but roids are usually bigger c/d?).

Anyway, veldspar and pyerite will remain the key to get great quantities of tritanium and pyerite. From that perspective, scordite situation is quite safe and I don't think we'll se a comparatively big flux of pyerite into the market from these changes. Tritanium in my opinion could get a stronger hit, but we'll see.


So, in conclusion, all your crying about nullsec getting all the goodies and marshmallows have no sense.
I see highsec afkminers all day and they make an obscene amount of money for the little effort and risk they put into it.
Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#10 - 2013-04-26 21:56:42 UTC
WH cap ship builders are rejoicing. Everyone else is yawning.

Will take alot more than this to get the lazy nullbears off their butts.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2013-04-26 22:21:16 UTC
According to the two guys who actually mine in our alliance, the loss of grav sites that you have to probe down means that this is a net nerf to nullsec mining, because there is nowhere safe to mine anymore.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#12 - 2013-04-26 22:23:30 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
According to the two guys who actually mine in our alliance, the loss of grav sites that you have to probe down means that this is a net nerf to nullsec mining, because there is nowhere safe to mine anymore.


EXCEPT MINING IN DEEP DELVE THAT IS?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-04-26 22:26:33 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
According to the two guys who actually mine in our alliance, the loss of grav sites that you have to probe down means that this is a net nerf to nullsec mining, because there is nowhere safe to mine anymore.


Yeah, a part of me thinks that not much will change in the overall economy because most poeple in Null sec won't up and decide to start mining out of the blue simply because of the dangers involved.

Sure they can organize mining fleets with proper escorts, but the truth is no one looking for PVP wants to watch people mine for several hours on end.

So the people who do mine will make more profits but overall it won't be a large dent in the bucket compared to hi-sec's output.

Of course this is all wild speculation.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#14 - 2013-04-26 22:40:01 UTC
The only way Null gets a benefit from this is if they get miners to move there. Which means fewer miners in high sec, less competition for riods in high sec belts, fatter high sec roids, and a reduced supply of minerals in high sec. But reduced demand for them too, as Null will not be buying and importing as much.

Its not clear that means a price crash.

So: Any miners looking to move? Any Null alliances looking for high sec industrial corps to join? If you null sec guys are looking for renters, pets or slaves, you may be disappointed. Look for new members, and you got a better chance.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-04-26 22:45:32 UTC
This thread, is why you shouldn't drink energy drinks while on medication.

I feel like I'm reading about a childs visit to the zoo while he was buzzed on pop-rocks.
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#16 - 2013-04-26 22:53:10 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
According to the two guys who actually mine in our alliance, the loss of grav sites that you have to probe down means that this is a net nerf to nullsec mining, because there is nowhere safe to mine anymore.


Because probing down grav sites and miners after finding their ships in DSCAN was so much difficult work.

tl;dr it won't be any less safe than it already was realistically. just less redundancy.
Camios
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-04-26 22:58:06 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
The only way Null gets a benefit from this is if they get miners to move there. Which means fewer miners in high sec, less competition for riods in high sec belts, fatter high sec roids, and a reduced supply of minerals in high sec. But reduced demand for them too, as Null will not be buying and importing as much.

Its not clear that means a price crash.

So: Any miners looking to move? Any Null alliances looking for high sec industrial corps to join? If you null sec guys are looking for renters, pets or slaves, you may be disappointed. Look for new members, and you got a better chance.


Miners will move from highsec when they will be able to afk mine hisec minerals in 0.0, and it's not the case yet.

I think that moving miners instead of moving minerals would be more interesting (you know, social interaction and all that jazz), but actually this would require something to make lowend mineral mining in nullsec safer.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-04-26 23:00:21 UTC
Havegun Willtravel wrote:
WH cap ship builders are rejoicing. Everyone else is yawning.

Will take alot more than this to get the lazy nullbears off their butts.


Refining from a pos still sucks the big one.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-04-26 23:02:38 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
According to the two guys who actually mine in our alliance, the loss of grav sites that you have to probe down means that this is a net nerf to nullsec mining, because there is nowhere safe to mine anymore.


Because probing down grav sites and miners after finding their ships in DSCAN was so much difficult work.

tl;dr it won't be any less safe than it already was realistically. just less redundancy.


More that you used to have to bail when you saw probes, you could safely ignore any neutrals who didn't have probes. Now any neutral is a threat, and you dont get the warning time that probes gave.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#20 - 2013-04-26 23:14:06 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
According to the two guys who actually mine in our alliance, the loss of grav sites that you have to probe down means that this is a net nerf to nullsec mining, because there is nowhere safe to mine anymore.


Because probing down grav sites and miners after finding their ships in DSCAN was so much difficult work.

tl;dr it won't be any less safe than it already was realistically. just less redundancy.

Its not that it was difficult to scan, its that the miners can see the probes on D-scan, and know that its time to run.

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