Wormholes

Ok, so:

It's totally true that we didn't expect WH to get as colonized as they have, that's no secret, we've been saying it for years.

We also stressed, repeatedly, at the RT that we *like* what it's become and we want to make sure that any changes to W-Space don't drive out the people who're already there.

We're not totally enamoured with the way capital escalations are farmed, and we're not totally enamoured with the amount of money that generates, but we're also not keen to just flat-out remove them because the gameplay there is interesting.

One of the consistent themes, being said to us by the WHers at the RT, was that W-Space was too predictable and now lacked the excitement/danger of the early days. Messing with mass variation, and messing with the predictability of the sites (including escalations) were, IIRC, suggestion from players, that were broadly well-received by the other players present. We like these ideas and would like to look into them further when we have time.

The reason that W-Space changes have not been a huge priority for us is because we feel like the feature is working pretty well and we don't see a need to hugely mess with it right now.

Hope this makes everyone feel better

I am fine with increased randomization.

sleeper dreadnoughts would be awesome

If we could downvote posts... if we could only downvote

If the capital escalation is too profitable, would it be preferable to reduce the blue book value from those escalation battleships?

If a nerf dart must be shot, then I would be in favor of an increase in risk not a decrease in isk potential. It still remains a major investment in overall game time and isk to run capital escalations. All things considered, time + risk should always = isk in EVE.

I moved in a new Wormhole corp recently, and i have to agree with CCP Greyscale.

I had certain expectations about the life in wormholes, but after the first two weeks living here with my corp i can say, i never thought it would be this "easy and safe". In the old days the big danger was the not-existent local chat, but nowadays we scan every incoming hole down as soon as it is there, having scouts at every entrance and are minimizing the risk of getting ganked.

More randomization would lead to more group-play, more "what can we do if the **** hits the fan" thinking, more paranoia. More "i better put a scanner on my chain-collapsing BS" and less "yeah we know the estimated mass left on this wormhole, EVERYTHING IS SAFE".

Also the PvP in Wh's could get more interesting, when you never know if your whole fleet can make it through the hole or not.

I like the proposed changes. :)

My corp / alliance has just started to live in a wormhole and its the first time we have ever felt like we have a home. We have been in 3 null sec alliances, the whole sov system, politics and somewhat broken industry side of 0.0 is what spurred us on to leave null sec.

As a corp and individual members we make much less isk in our wormhole but we are happy in it.

We pvp in low sec and the wormholes, run the sites, do some mining and gas harvesting and enjoy it very much. It would be a shame if we had to leave as we feel at home.

Ive personally had it with 0.0, I used to love it but its crap now. Many of the guys in my corp are 0.0 guys and they are just as disenfranchised.

I would emplore CCP to fix 0.0 before touching anything with wh's.

The mineral and moon mining changes will go a long way towards helping with that. However, unless you can get more people out there its not going to help. Small corps and alliances are the life blood of EVE, any changes should be go help the little guys and not the large entities.

Renting, holding masses of unused space etc have destroyed 0.0, it was better when lots of smaller entities operated.

For this reason my corp and band of merry 30 or so men moved to wormholes and we love it.

If EVE is supposed to be a sandbox and the content generated by its users, please for the love of god dont take our buckets and spades away. We like our sandcastle just the way it is.

If you want to make wormholes more interesting it might be better to just make small changes. Perhaps make static connections only last a few hours before moving instead of 24 hours, add more connections so there is more happening.

On a personal note could we have sleepers give sec status cos mines terrible from shooting newbs in our low sec static connections all the time.

Fix 0.0, revamp the POS's, then look at the only aspect of the game that currently works. Wormholes breed teamwork, they are not for the light hearted. Perhaps making null sec anomalies as hard as wormhole ones would help so you have to work as a team.

Its an MMO afterall!

WH's: Working better than intended....

Remember: All those WH's are full of people that used to/would have/might have migrated to 0.0 before....

I concur. C5 sites give more isk overall, but personally, ever since I've moved to a C5 with the alliance, I've been making less isk because the sites are so damn hard to organize and get a group together.

Running C5 sites is dangerous and a logistic nightmare, it needs to have a very good payout. The reason it's such an isk faucet is because c5 sites give mostly bluebooks instead of materials that can be sold to players. maybe this could be tweaked?