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Odyssy ICE depletion...ICE RESOURCE DISTRIBUTION
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Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#101 - 2013-04-25 00:42:54 UTC
turmajin wrote:
Last year CCP Soubdwave ect also where talking about RING MINING as an option to end the TECH monopoly,of a few alliances.We all know that it isnt going to happen in the forseeable future.CCP have also talked about modular POSes but again its not happening in the foreseeable future.ICE harvesting will stay as it is mostly,and still be in high sec,though the fields could deplete ,just as the ore fields do.If anything is going to happen iconcerning ICE its most probibly that option,and just maybe the introduction of higher yei;ding ice types from COMETS or wharever that you will have to scan down.But to really make it worthwhile for players perhaps COMETS or RING MINING (when it happrens ??)could also yeild ALLOYS. as well as the ore /ICE


Do you have some kind of capslock disability?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#102 - 2013-04-25 00:49:30 UTC
turmajin wrote:
Last year CCP Soubdwave ect also where talking about RING MINING as an option to end the TECH monopoly,of a few alliances.We all know that it isnt going to happen in the forseeable future.CCP have also talked about modular POSes but again its not happening in the foreseeable future.ICE harvesting will stay as it is mostly,and still be in high sec,though the fields could deplete ,just as the ore fields do.If anything is going to happen iconcerning ICE its most probibly that option,and just maybe the introduction of higher yei;ding ice types from COMETS or wharever that you will have to scan down.But to really make it worthwhile for players perhaps COMETS or RING MINING (when it happrens ??)could also yeild ALLOYS. as well as the ore /ICE


The most likely change is the "Depletion" option, but I'd also like to see at least some ice sourced into the game as another form of grav site.

Remove asteroid, insert iceberg. Scan, rinse, and repeat.

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#103 - 2013-04-26 18:34:32 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
turmajin wrote:
Last year CCP Soubdwave ect also where talking about RING MINING as an option to end the TECH monopoly,of a few alliances.We all know that it isnt going to happen in the forseeable future.CCP have also talked about modular POSes but again its not happening in the foreseeable future.ICE harvesting will stay as it is mostly,and still be in high sec,though the fields could deplete ,just as the ore fields do.If anything is going to happen iconcerning ICE its most probibly that option,and just maybe the introduction of higher yei;ding ice types from COMETS or wharever that you will have to scan down.But to really make it worthwhile for players perhaps COMETS or RING MINING (when it happrens ??)could also yeild ALLOYS. as well as the ore /ICE


The most likely change is the "Depletion" option, but I'd also like to see at least some ice sourced into the game as another form of grav site.

Remove asteroid, insert iceberg. Scan, rinse, and repeat.



yep ICE DEPLETES here goes the market in Jita
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#104 - 2013-04-26 18:39:23 UTC
Ka-ching. Cool

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#105 - 2013-04-26 18:47:12 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
Ice is the life-blood of EvE. I'm pretty sure if it were removed from highsec it would have disastrous consequences.

Yeah, people in nullsec might have to mine ice!Shocked

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#106 - 2013-04-26 18:48:21 UTC
When an ice spot depletes, a new one spawns. Just means you have to move more around instead of afk'ing all day.

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Droodid
Antec Enterprises
#107 - 2013-04-26 18:48:44 UTC
If someone could buy the massive stockpile of Oxy I bought last speculation then forgot to sell that'd be great. Thanks.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#108 - 2013-04-26 18:49:28 UTC
Droodid wrote:
If someone could buy the massive stockpile of Oxy I bought last speculation then forgot to sell that'd be great. Thanks.



that way you can be oxy clean?

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#109 - 2013-04-26 18:52:07 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
When an ice spot depletes, a new one spawns. Just means you have to move more around instead of afk'ing all day.


It takes 4 hours until respawn!Attention
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#110 - 2013-04-26 18:53:14 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
When an ice spot depletes, a new one spawns. Just means you have to move more around instead of afk'ing all day.

It takes 4 hours until respawn!Attention

…so nerf barge warp speed and agility so it takes about 3½ hours to get there. Blink
Dave Stark
#111 - 2013-04-26 18:56:33 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
When an ice spot depletes, a new one spawns. Just means you have to move more around instead of afk'ing all day.

It takes 4 hours until respawn!Attention

…so nerf barge warp speed and agility so it takes about 3½ hours to get there. Blink


*looks at the size of an ice belt*
4hrs, completely insignificant.
Haulie Berry
#112 - 2013-04-26 18:57:06 UTC
OH LAWDY THE SKY IS FALLING!
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#113 - 2013-04-26 19:01:02 UTC
The 4 hour respawn is an issue. If I got 1 hour to kill right now can hop in a barge and get some ice. In the new system my one hour could easily fall into that 4 hour cool-down. Saying " go elsewhere" is of little help as I only got an hour.

Now if the average ice belt takes days to get mined out, this issue is small as there will only be a small chance the four hour respawn happens at the same time as my play time.

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Dave Stark
#114 - 2013-04-26 19:03:19 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
The 4 hour respawn is an issue. If I got 1 hour to kill right now can hop in a barge and get some ice. In the new system my one hour could easily fall into that 4 hour cool-down. Saying " go elsewhere" is of little help as I only got an hour.

Now if the average ice belt takes days to get mined out, this issue is small as there will only be a small chance the four hour respawn happens at the same time as my play time.


unless they announce a change in ice belts (smaller roids, less of them, or such), which they haven't done, then you're right the chance of being online during the 4hr period is small.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#115 - 2013-04-26 20:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Given that there was also mention of ice mining cycles being doubled up, the actual size of spawning ice fields (belts?) may actually be smaller than they are now (or it might not matter at all).

Given how fast some fleets can already mine, the 4 hour respawn issue may "hurt" some mining ambitions.... but then again, CCP wants people to fight over these resources, so YMMV.

Onoes, is that a logi in your mining fleet ? Shocked

Some folks might see the value in a logi when the double speed cycle kicks in. Blink

Or not.

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Dave Stark
#116 - 2013-04-26 20:21:27 UTC
reading the dev blog, they are assuming the anoms are cleared 5 times a day, that's 20 hours of "downtime" leaving 4 hours of mining, for 5 anoms. that's 40 mins per anom.

if we knew what size fleets they are expecting in these belts, we'd be able to calculate the size of the anoms. however we're lacking 2 bits of information in a 3 piece of information equation so we'll have to wait and see.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#117 - 2013-04-26 20:29:53 UTC
IIRC, these ice anomalies will only spawn in systems where static belts currently exist.

So, a bit of time saved not having to check each and every system -- and zero time spent moving fleets around.

Fun times.


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Dave Stark
#118 - 2013-04-26 20:33:01 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
IIRC, these ice anomalies will only spawn in systems where static belts currently exist.

So, a bit of time saved not having to check each and every system -- and zero time spent moving fleets around.

Fun times.




already spotted 2 systems within 2 jumps of each other with a combined belts. good times.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#119 - 2013-04-26 20:33:35 UTC
People are going to clamor for special "ice probes" because all those other sigs will make them have to work.


Gotta keep up that global laziness competition you know.

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Dave Stark
#120 - 2013-04-26 20:35:45 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
People are going to clamor for special "ice probes" because all those other sigs will make them have to work.


Gotta keep up that global laziness competition you know.


as far as i can tell, you don't have to probe them. just use that new discovery scanner thing and then warp to it.