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Ore Changes For Odyssey
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AnimeHeretic
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-04-26 19:39:26 UTC
Im not much of a miner. But what exactly am I seeing here?

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-companion-blog

It's looks to me like they're adding huge amounts of trit and pyreite to all the high end ore.

Someone explain how this will affect ore prices.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#2 - 2013-04-26 19:41:37 UTC
From what i see the point of it is to make them produce stuff in null, and the lack of trit/scord was the "problem". Roll

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Citizen of Solitude
Mynutor
Myn Industries
#3 - 2013-04-26 19:46:50 UTC
Prices will go down. I guess by at least 50% for Trit and pyer. Maybe even much more.

Overall mineral prices will go down, prices drop, isk devalues, Plex prices go up.

Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates, mineral prices go up, plex prices normalise again.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2013-04-26 19:47:52 UTC
Guess CCP agreed that low-end mining was too profitable.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2013-04-26 19:53:24 UTC
Time to buy Zydrine and Megacyte.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-26 19:55:35 UTC
that's a buff and a half!

forums.  serious business.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-04-26 19:56:00 UTC
Mynutor wrote:


Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates,


Build what gates? Stargates? Dafuq is this?

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-04-26 19:56:51 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
From what i see the point of it is to make them produce stuff in null, and the lack of trit/scord was the "problem". Roll


They're also adding slots to the outpost upgrades to increase manufacturing bandwidth in null.

Not nearly enough, but hey, it's something.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Castor Narcissus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-04-26 19:57:28 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Guess CCP agreed that low-end mining was too profitable.


CCP could stick minable sleeper hulls in low sec and still no one would mine it. Reason is you don't earn enough to pay for an escort and even a skiff doesn't have enough EHP to tank anything above a cruiser to call for help.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2013-04-26 20:01:12 UTC
Hmmm... trit and py will fall through the floor! Eve will be in a recession! Panic! Flee! Horde ALL the ISK! Grab your ventures and secure your measly stockpile! ALL the PLEX will be worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In short, the main bullet point to take away from this is that Eve is dying, and this will kill it faster.

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Dave Stark
#11 - 2013-04-26 20:02:18 UTC
AnimeHeretic wrote:
Im not much of a miner. But what exactly am I seeing here?

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-companion-blog

It's looks to me like they're adding huge amounts of trit and pyreite to all the high end ore.

Someone explain how this will affect ore prices.


at current prices, all null sec ores will be worth at least 8 isk/m3 more than the highest high sec ores. that's the minimum difference.

the average value of a large null sec mining anom will be roughly 24.4% higher than that of scordite. (before rorqual bonuses)

null sec mining is worth doing, once more. assuming prices don't change.
any price changes will be making low ends worth less and widening that 8isk gap due to the increased supply of low end minerals.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#12 - 2013-04-26 20:11:52 UTC
At current prices Spodumain is worth 106.55 isk/m3 which is the most worthless garbage of all the ores. With the new release stats and using current mineral prices Spodumain is worth 243 isk/m3 an enormous and much needed change.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#13 - 2013-04-26 20:12:48 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Mynutor wrote:


Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates,


Build what gates? Stargates? Dafuq is this?


Yes EVE Colonization will feature the ability for sov holders to build stargates.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#14 - 2013-04-26 20:27:51 UTC
Skeln Thargensen wrote:
that's a buff and a half!


THE ABC'S HAVE BECOME SUPERVELD'S & SUPER SCORDS!!! Ugh
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-04-26 20:30:39 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Skeln Thargensen wrote:
that's a buff and a half!


THE ABC'S HAVE BECOME SUPERVELD'S & SUPER SCORDS!!! Ugh


And they are adding more factory slots to player built outposts.
Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
#16 - 2013-04-26 20:38:39 UTC
It all depends on how much industry moves out to null as a result. I guess it will greatly reduce the low ends being shipped out of high for capitals, but I'm not sure what percentage of high sec minerals end up in caps. Only time will tell how many null alliances bother to make their subcaps out in null, rather than ship in from high, as a result of these changes.

I can't see much trit and pyrite being shipped into high sec from null, a freighter full of the stuff isn't going to be worth enough for them to bother.
Kali Omega
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#17 - 2013-04-26 20:39:30 UTC
Octoven wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Mynutor wrote:


Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates,


Build what gates? Stargates? Dafuq is this?


Yes EVE Colonization will feature the ability for sov holders to build stargates.


Could you link or cut paste the article on this...cant view most of the eve news on work computer.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#18 - 2013-04-26 20:42:40 UTC
Hisec miners can kiss their income goodbye, and Spod will return to being the least valuable ore in the game (adding 10k of something worth 0 ISK means you are reducing the value of that ore).

Good job, CCP. I though you were past the sledge-hammer-instead-of-a-scalpel approach to rebalancing?

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#19 - 2013-04-26 20:44:21 UTC
Kali Omega wrote:
Could you link or cut paste the article on this...cant view most of the eve news on work computer.


No article yet, this was CCP Seagull's closing comments during the EVE Keynote: basically that you will be able to build and destroy critical infrastructure such as star gates. Expect to hear a lot more about this over the next six months as people get over the rush of Odyssey :)

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Dave Stark
#20 - 2013-04-26 20:49:41 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Hisec miners can kiss their income goodbye, and Spod will return to being the least valuable ore in the game (adding 10k of something worth 0 ISK means you are reducing the value of that ore).

Good job, CCP. I though you were past the sledge-hammer-instead-of-a-scalpel approach to rebalancing?


10,000 trit from veldspar. 333m3 of ore
10,000 trit from spod. 4000m3 of ore.

trit obtained from 4000m3 of veldspar, 120,000

you're getting 12x the trit, from veldspar than you do spod.

also even at current prices, spod is already ahead of veldspar and a fall in trit prices only widens the gap due to spod's other mineral content.
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