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Behold, Your Empress

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Anslo
Scope Works
#41 - 2013-04-24 14:32:56 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
This is a purely internal matter and, thus, the sole business of the Amarr.


Is this the new stock answer for everything in order to stifle debate? Or does this only apply to those who comment on Caldari and Amarrian issues?

Not much point in this channel or any other communication medium in that case.

I'll be sure to regurgitate this response when there are Matari "internal matters" that the rest of you decide to comment on. When you do, I'll be certain to point out your hypoicrisy as well.


No, it's simply how the Caldari work. They tend to their own house. Same would go for any Empire. If a few State Citizens were killed, then maybe it would be a Caldari issue. But it didn't happen.

His opinion doesn't stifle debate. If you think his one comment is stifling then that's your own problem.

Nothing wrong with stating that as his opinion.

So stop being touchy. Grow some thicker skin for crying out loud.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#42 - 2013-04-25 04:38:05 UTC
Reach for Heaven, Fermenting Children!

What, sweetie? That's not what she said? Oh. My bad.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#43 - 2013-04-25 15:11:55 UTC
Let's see....


Caldari state under the Provists is much at odds with the corporations.

Federation is looking hypocritical and weak as it sacrifices liberty for security.

Minmatar having tribal issues again as the memory of their nemesis (the Amarr) fades and they all don't have one thing to hate.

And now the Amarr falling into fundamentalist chaos and extremism.


Ah yes the universe is going to be a wonderfully anarchistic cauldron of chaos. We will see the best of the human race, and the worst, but we will be seeing the human race.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-04-25 15:17:57 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Ah yes the universe is going to be a wonderfully anarchistic cauldron of chaos. We will see the best of the human race, and the worst, but we will be seeing the human race.


From a wide enough perspective, that's all anyone can see. ;)

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#45 - 2013-04-25 18:12:50 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

...Minmatar having tribal issues again as the memory of their nemesis (the Amarr) fades and they all don't have one thing to hate...


What tribal issues are you referring to? There are no inter-tribal squabbles now. As a matter of fact, we've all united behind Karin Midular and are praying for her recovery. You're also wrong that we've forgotten about the threat posed by the Amarr. We'll be forever vigilant regarding the slavers so long as they continue their policy of "reclaiming".

It also shows how little you truly understand of our people when you state as fact that the only thing that unites us is a hatred for the slavers. There's so much more to us than that. I find your overly simplistic argument, quite frankly, offensive.

So much ignorance and bigotry in that one sentence. That's quite an accomplishment, pilot.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-04-25 18:57:45 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
And now the Amarr falling into fundamentalist chaos and extremism.


I'd hardly call what's transpiring in the Empire "fundamentalist chaos and extremism."
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#47 - 2013-04-25 21:07:36 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
This is a purely internal matter and, thus, the sole business of the Amarr.


Is this the new stock answer for everything in order to stifle debate? Or does this only apply to those who comment on Caldari and Amarrian issues?

Not much point in this channel or any other communication medium in that case.

I'll be sure to regurgitate this response when there are Matari "internal matters" that the rest of you decide to comment on. When you do, I'll be certain to point out your hypoicrisy as well.



You should consider emulating the better of your colleagues and try acting to defuse the stereotype of the 'Angry Minmatar'. I understand that your culture embraces passion, but there's a difference between passion and public hysterics. Just some advice.

Specific to my comment, though... In the interests of full disclosure, I should say that I find this outpouring of religious ecstacy on the part of my State's allies to be as unfathomable and distasteful as many others seem to - but whilst I might have a personal opinion on it, this particular policy of the Empire is something that wholly affects only the Empire itself. As such, I've largely held my tongue on the matter.

Contrast this to, say, plans for a new Reclaiming - which, although a matter of Imperial Policy, would effect almost every other population in New Eden. On such a matter I would expect everyone to have an opinion. On the matter of a new trade policy, equally - this would affect everyone.

Do we really need to hear every capsuleers opinion of how the Amarr party?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#48 - 2013-04-25 21:26:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
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BloodBird
The Crucible.
#49 - 2013-04-25 22:21:45 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Let's see....


Caldari state under the Provists is much at odds with the corporations.

Federation is looking hypocritical and weak as it sacrifices liberty for security.

Minmatar having tribal issues again as the memory of their nemesis (the Amarr) fades and they all don't have one thing to hate.

And now the Amarr falling into fundamentalist chaos and extremism.


Ah yes the universe is going to be a wonderfully anarchistic cauldron of chaos. We will see the best of the human race, and the worst, but we will be seeing the human race.


I take it we will see equally extensive sources and explanations for these extremely generalizing remarks of yours, Wolfhammer, just like we did last time, with the Black Eagles rally in Villore?

Oh yeah, that's right. You never back any of your assumptions and wide-ranging accusations up with anything remotely resembling proper arguments or facts. I will just assume your taking a **** on the Empires.

Like you usually do.

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#50 - 2013-04-25 23:39:51 UTC
If no comments were desired then, the news article shouldn't have been posted in a public FORUM whose purpose is DISCUSSION, IDEA EXCHANGE AND OPINIONS. My mistake for assuming otherwise. Please, "better colleagues" carry on.

Perhaps in future I'll see you similarly admonishing your Caldari brethren and Amarrian allies when they comment on matters not directly related to the State and Empire?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2013-04-26 00:50:12 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
If no comments were desired then, the news article shouldn't have been posted in a public FORUM whose purpose is DISCUSSION, IDEA EXCHANGE AND OPINIONS. My mistake for assuming otherwise. Please, "better colleagues" carry on.

Perhaps in future I'll see you similarly admonishing your Caldari brethren and Amarrian allies when they comment on matters not directly related to the State and Empire?


I don't understand why you think I'd be partisan on behalf of the Empire...

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#52 - 2013-04-26 02:11:25 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I don't understand why you think I'd be partisan on behalf of the Empire...


It's because of your golden... good looks, Pieter.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#53 - 2013-04-28 21:34:54 UTC
BloodBird wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Let's see....


Caldari state under the Provists is much at odds with the corporations.

Federation is looking hypocritical and weak as it sacrifices liberty for security.

Minmatar having tribal issues again as the memory of their nemesis (the Amarr) fades and they all don't have one thing to hate.

And now the Amarr falling into fundamentalist chaos and extremism.


Ah yes the universe is going to be a wonderfully anarchistic cauldron of chaos. We will see the best of the human race, and the worst, but we will be seeing the human race.


I take it we will see equally extensive sources and explanations for these extremely generalizing remarks of yours, Wolfhammer, just like we did last time, with the Black Eagles rally in Villore?

Oh yeah, that's right. You never back any of your assumptions and wide-ranging accusations up with anything remotely resembling proper arguments or facts. I will just assume your taking a **** on the Empires.

Like you usually do.





The reason why I don't bother is because I have never seen any amount of words broadcast in the IGS manage to change anybody's ideals or observations.

Our heads are thicker than tech 2 1600mm Tungsten.

So don't flatter yourself by thinking I will take the time to argue with you.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#54 - 2013-04-29 03:18:20 UTC
And here I was thinking that this article would actually contain some iota of news about the actual Empress. Alas.
Natalcya Katla
Astropolitan Front
#55 - 2013-04-29 03:55:49 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
And here I was thinking that this article would actually contain some iota of news about the actual Empress. Alas.

Indeed. The article linked in the OP doesn't even specify whether the woman portraying a bare-breasted Empress Jamyl was wearing nipple rings or not.

Shoddy journalism.
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#56 - 2013-04-29 10:36:37 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
BloodBird wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Let's see....


Caldari state under the Provists is much at odds with the corporations.

Federation is looking hypocritical and weak as it sacrifices liberty for security.

Minmatar having tribal issues again as the memory of their nemesis (the Amarr) fades and they all don't have one thing to hate.

And now the Amarr falling into fundamentalist chaos and extremism.


Ah yes the universe is going to be a wonderfully anarchistic cauldron of chaos. We will see the best of the human race, and the worst, but we will be seeing the human race.


I take it we will see equally extensive sources and explanations for these extremely generalizing remarks of yours, Wolfhammer, just like we did last time, with the Black Eagles rally in Villore?

Oh yeah, that's right. You never back any of your assumptions and wide-ranging accusations up with anything remotely resembling proper arguments or facts. I will just assume your taking a **** on the Empires.

Like you usually do.





The reason why I don't bother is because I have never seen any amount of words broadcast in the IGS manage to change anybody's ideals or observations.

Our heads are thicker than tech 2 1600mm Tungsten.

So don't flatter yourself by thinking I will take the time to argue with you.




I have never asked for an argument, I have asked you to provide some basis for your beliefs that all the governments around you deserve endless ridicule. But if your going to claim that it's okay to do this all the time because no-one believe you anyway and that this saves you from having to back your arguments up with anything at all, I can play along.

I'll just assume until proven wrong, that your talking out of your rear and have nothing of meaning that can validate your claims.
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