Crime & Punishment

He is in a noob corp. Do you know his main by any chance?

Scam sent 800 mil and got nothing back

Erotica said she would look at it but then went afk






DONT DO IT ITS A SCAM, sure some people will get money back but most wont.

I hope it will be sorted out but till then i advise people to stay away

TLDR
It worked for me, after all is said and done I came it with a nice amount of money, and I would say if you're going to play, make sure she is actually there and ready, and be patient - if something does go wrong, just be patient, don't be a **** and you'll very possibly get everything sorted out.

Here you can see the donations, as the picture shows, it's only player donations, and I was in Dodixie selling stuff, so the numbers of my own balance are changing due to that. http://i.imgur.com/qrlNXQd.jpg?1?9457

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So, I played once this morning, sent 100m, got 200m back pretty fast - she was posting in local about others that had sent her something, and then she sent back the appropriate amounts. I am pretty spacepoor at the moment after some recent purchases, so after selling a few items I had with me (the reason I went to Dodixie), I sent back 400m. As I did, someone was saying how they hadn't gotten anything back, to which she replied and said she was going to look into it.

I waited patiently. The server downtime was approaching, and I was beginning to think - well, I guess this is how she operates, lures you in once, and then disappears. I messaged her, she didn't answer. I was still not entirely sure, obviously with these things, they are often scams, I was well prepared for the fact that I may not get anything. After the servers came back up, I initiated a discussion with her - she said she hadn't received my messages prior to down time (it was only a couple of minutes before, she could easily have gone afk), I told her what had happened and then she said she'd look into it.

Then she came back saying there was a problem, and I was like.. yeah here it comes. She couldn't seem to find it - we discussed it a little while, and she wanted me to send her another 400m, to which she would then return 1.6billion - double the technical 800m I would have sent by this point. At this point I was thinking of an earlier post here and was not willing to throw another 400m away - not that I had 400m to throw away at this point, so I couldn't even had I wanted to. She linked me to the recent post about her on minerbumping which, you know, doesn't mean she's legitimate - she could have done that just to get more people to fall for her scam, but anyway. I explained my situation to her, and she came back with "are you ready?" and I'm thinking ready? I didn't say I was going to send 400m, I don't have it, but I just responded "ready?" - she sent me 1.6bil straight up, without me sending any additional funds, apparently a missclick. At this point I could obviously just walk away, but she asked me to return 400m, which basically brings it to what she had originally said, send me another 400m, and she would double the initial 400+the 400 I just sent. So I did - I could have kept it all, but I decided not to, never know how bad karma will hit :P

So to end, after being pretty sure I had fallen for a scam, I've come out of it with 1.2b ISK when I had a fraction of that this morning. It's easy to get caught out of her rules, which might lend to this seeming less trustworthy than it is, as people don't send back the right amounts, and it certainly is easy to miss one or two key words that cause you to **** up and send the wrong amount. The whole deal with not being able to see my transaction? I'm not sure what went on there - if that is part of a scam, or if she just gets inundated with wallet transactions that she looses some transactions in the mix. But in the end, I came out of this with far more than I went in with, so if she is entirely legitimate, it could perhaps be run a little smoother to at least get a few less false claims of her scamming (There's always going to be some, due to people not reading the rules and then calling her a scammer).

Is it a scam? I don't know, it worked for me in the end, so on that basis, I would have to say no. I do believe that she probably doesn't need to scam, as there certainly seems to be enough people that **** up on the second time they send back ISK, due to not properly reading.

Erotica invited me and a few others to participate in a modified "live event" version of her game model yesterday.

Having played before and prospered I was never going to say no.

Had fun and left with a faction fitted Hulk obtained at a very reasonable price which made me a nice profit when I stripped fit and re-sold.

Sadly, I do not possess mining skills otherwise I would have put the fine exhumer class space vessel to good use.

I left a wee surprise for the capsuleer who purchased it should they ever venture their hand down the back of the cockpit chair

I will admit, that for the very first time redshaw aka Mrs Isk Giveaway aka self-exclaimed brother of an esteemed Make a Wish capsuleer has actually made me a "madbro." I seriously doubt his claims of a connection to such a wonderful group of guys, but I have not been able to receive a confirmation or denial from my dear friends at BAW, which is concerning.

Allow me to explain....


After an exhausting session of free isk giveaways and games, as I commonly like to do, I bid my fair neighbors in my vacation town good day and redshaw aka Mrs Isk Giveaway burst on the scene.

I had informed local that I was leaving to play with my 7 year old son and would see them after awhile. Now normally, people would either say goodbye, ignore you, or make a slight personal attack to get a rise out of someone.

Redshaw made the grave error of making a comment I shall not repeat here regarding my son. Classy, really classy man. It is not my style to go running to a petition for such behavior. Nor will I start throwing insults and threats back.

Regardless of whether you are a fan or not of my isk doubling business, we all need to remember that this is an (awesome) internet spaceship game. If it goes further than that, there is a serious underlying issue that needs to be addressed one way or another.

However, my initial plan of deccing him and his friends for a few weeks due to terrible trolling, has now been extended to a likely permanent war. Make your own conclusion regarding me, but leave people's kids out of your space rage.

As I have told Redshaw many times in chats and emails (I don't block anyone), I have no problem with however he wants to play his game. People mostly ignore him. I do ask that he, and others, seriously take a deep breath and think for a moment if something that is a game become more than that.

My only 2 requests have been to be respectful and make his own game instead of copying someone else's to troll them (and scamming instead of being legit.) Be creative. Be original. Add your own twist. Actually take the time to write your own sentences instead of doing a copy and paste job of someone's bio.

He makes a point to email and chat me multiple times a day to brag of the billions he is making and how poor I must be now. I find that laughable to be honest, but I always wish him the best of luck. What is odd though, is that once a day, either by him or his friends, I always get the same demand to pay him 1 billion isk for him to leave me alone. Odd. After all, my friends can attest to all the riches I have been sharing.

I do not negotiate with children who think they are bullies on a schoolyard. Surely, he is old enough to legally accept the EULA , but it's like a trip through time back to grade school whenever he comes around.

(It reminds me of the client featured recently on www.minerbumping.com where the player acts like a child, then the following day the "parent" of the child trolls me just like the "child") Is this a theme developing?

I call upon redshaw's friends to ask themselves why they hang out with such a character. No one needs to spew hate just because they dislike someone.

I also call upon my friends in space to either block this troll (to avoid verbal altercations) or to take matters into your own hands in the game. There is always a reason for all of my wardecs. (except for blue sec which was my misclick of a button). Please feel free to join my wars, or ask for clarification.

But in any case, remember people, this is just a game!

Fly safe my friends.

People still do this, and people still fall for this?

Well Thank you for the apology!

I can only think of one or two other players you might be, others that have sadly sent donations that did not count and graced my forum threads with their presence. I guess I will have to keep guessing!

As you know however, I am an honest doubler. If you wish to start a doubling business that is certainly up to you. Perhaps after some of my players have been payed out well and run out of their 3 investments, they will pay you a visit....


Just today, I had around 25 of my closest friends in a group chat and teamspeak for a special bonus event for a 20b payout. The client really invested quite a bit. I'm sorry you were not in attendance.

My only suggestion to you is to rethink scamming. I surely hope instead that you decide to offer an honest service, as respected as mine perhaps!

:o)

Dude, people still fall for the classic Goon recruitment scam, and the tears are always delicious......

Let me start by saying that we have the utmost respect for Erotica 1's hard work and effort she puts into the EVE community.
Her ISK doubling service is the only one that is 100% legitimate and easy to use.

If you fail at getting rich (by stealing Erotica's hard earned iskies) you have no place among the EVE gods and should be ashamed for any ill-conceived insult you direct at her.

D.