In-Game Events and Gatherings

Hello mate,

I'm looking for a partner in that would be interested in creating an helping managing a website such as similar to Somer Blink or Eveoplpus I have the idea in my head of what I would like to get done and I feel that it can make us both very rich. I would front the Domain and website hosting for a year to see how it does, I can pitch the idea to you and offer 49% stake of all profits to include share of the corporation and we would work off deposits and of course shave a little of the income off the top like these other lottery sites do. What i had in mind

Have you help create and manage the website. Once we have a big enough fan base higher other people to do it for us.

what i can provide domain name (to be discussed later if accepted)

hosting for a year to start (if profitable and everything works out will expand)

unlimited bandwidth to site no cap
unlimited emails to site

what i would like

API registration to be able to be used in game of course

lottery ticket type system to include the usual payout system deposit system
percentage of ISK spent =ticket with of course buyout option.

theses are all things that i have in mind please contact me back if you seem interested to take on a project like this and hopefully become rich. All input on changes that you would do or your terms would be much appreciated. Looking for partner that has strong interest in website design and back ground knowledge of topic.

Well, for one, why did you put this is Events? It's not an event, it's a business proposition. You would probably have gotten better response in Market Discussion or something.

Secondly, what sets your idea apart from all the other lottery businesses, including the ones you name such as Somer Blink and Evalopolous?

Actually i'm not really sure where to begin coding wise as i'm not a coder. I'm willing to back the fundage that it would cost to maintain and support a project worthy of a domain and website. How ever I figured nearly 50% stake in a business proposal is more then enough and in the future would allow me to get a grasp on coding as I would love to learn. After doing some research online and trying to search for a framework of a lottery site it seems PHP would be the way to go and the easier way to implant api's etc. how ever I do see your point in regards to what would make me different, I guess nothing really just another lottery website to add on top of the many that are already implemented. To be honest this is more of a learning thing for me and would probably take month's if not up to a year to get off the ground. But as far as difference goes as stated i'm up for ideas its just something i've been wanting to do but just haven't had the balls to really ask what direction I should go in as I don't have the reputation of some of theses bigger name places.

As a programmer, what you said basically translates to the following, by the way:

"I'd like to offer you almost 50% of the profits on a business venture. To obtain that 50% of the profits, you will need to do 95% of the work over the course of months, or potentially a year. What I can bring to the table is...absolutely nothing, not even an original idea, but I think getting over half of the profit is fair.

Now, on to the actual venture itself: the idea is to enter into the extremely competitive EVE lottery market as a clone of the already-popular and well-established lottery providers. We will do this with absolutely no known name or history, meaning that we won't even at least have a history of trust built up, requiring our potential customers to risk their ISK playing on our site. I realize that EVE players are, by nature, highly suspicious of everything (including their mother), but I'm certain that they'll come to the site in droves making it worth the time you put in toward creating the web application.

Really, I'm just doing this to learn, and not to actually stick with it and provide a service to the players from which I can make a little profit for my time and effort."

I'm sure you can see why this wouldn't generate any real interest.

The only way you're going to be able to get into and make it in the EVE lottery business is to come up with something new, or something that isn't already offered, and build that. If you're new and don't have a well-known name, you have to start from 0 and work your way up, and the only way you'll even get those first few customers is by having something nobody else offers but that people want.

If you're going into the same industry with the same products as someone who is far more established than you, you can expect about the same success as you would if you were to open a small store that carried nothing but cheap Chinese crap products...next door to a WalMart. You carry the same stock, but they have the name, marketing and volume advantages.

On the contrary, what we're saying -is- helpful. Maybe not what you want to hear, but helpful advice none-the-less.

You want a developer to help you? You need to provide a bit more substantial incentive other than "you get to spend months working on something which may or may not turn a profit". That is advice I provided, but not what you want to hear.

You want it to succeed? You need to have something new and creative to drive customers to your site. It's the same premise with marketing/selling anything else. You have to make your customer realize that they want something (even if they don't). But, really, what would I know. I've only developed websites and web applications for companies ranging from local businesses to international organizations, largely based around sales and driving revenue. Again, advice provided, but not what you want to hear.

We're telling you that you really need to approach it with a bit of forward planning other than waking up one day and deciding "I want to make a lottery site, it must be easy ISK". Figure out your requirements, figure out some sort of hook that'll get people interested in your idea, figure out something new and fun for your customers. Because if you don't, I can guarantee you're not going to draw anyone from your competition.

Remember that people who play on these lottery sites have to deposit money into the game system in order to play. If they have their money already invested in one game site, why would they then go and invest somewhere else? That just splits their funds and increases their risk of losing their money. So you have to come up with a reason that makes them see past the risk and decide that your site is fun/interesting/novel/over-paying enough to get them past the risk.

I'm sorry, if my advice is too helpful for you, I'll reword it:

Good luck. I'm sure you'll do great. You can do anything you put your mind to because you -are- a special snowflake.