Warfare & Tactics

The way i see it yes killmails are deceiving, But the boost ship isn't directly attacking your ship just the way someone using remote reps isn't actually attacking your ship, But hes giving an advantage to someone who is.

He also doesn't show and on a mail either, basic mechanics ..errrr working as intended?

This is false but I fail to see the point of this post. Is this your argument?

Premise 1) if all killmails are misleading, then its better to make them even *more* misleading by not including boosters.
Premise 2) All killmails are misleading
Conclusion: Therefore we should make them even more misleading by not including boosters.


With the large exceptions of boosters and remote reps killmails are as accurate at reporting who was involved in the battle, as we can reasonably expect them to be.

wont change a damn thing in high sec... out of corp/alliance booster alts will still be as safe as one can truly be.

Boosters are here to stay and they're available to everyone. That aside;

Whether we like it or not KBs are important and are where a lot of data-mining occurs. There is the incredibly vocal group of players who 'don't care' about KB stats but I don't think their loud yelling whenever killboards gets mentioned is indicative of the actual attitude about them in the game.

When a pilot uses a Falcon alt, it shows. When a pilot blobs, it shows. There are a number of ways to play dirty, but for the better part they're going to be data-mined off of a kill-board sooner or later.

Yeah, it's easy to spot somebody using a booster when you're flying. That isn't the point. To a third party, where in many cases the only information they have about what happened is in the kill-mail, it's important that the information they get is presented as precisely as possible to give a clear indication of what happened.

It would assist PvP coordinators. It would assist diplomats. It would help newbies and the people who are trying to give them constructive advise when they get confused about how they died.

I don't think that a hard nerf is the answer, but KB visibility would be an elegant and helpful feature.

Eve 24 Article - leaked CCP

Read the last bit. 'Do to links what we did to logistics.' How would that work?

EVE players in general seem to have a difficult time distinguishing between what are improvements and what are blatantly suggestions to dumb down the game for that and that reason alone.

Assuming this is accurate:

I think he means make them less of a rarity to see in battles. Reduce the learning cliff and make it so they are more commonly fit on BCs. Make it so we see more run of the mill links on ships that cost under 500 mill and are flown by pilots that don't have 500 mill isk in implants focused on links. Links for the masses.

Since he again made it clear that they would need to be on grid I would be fine with this.

You don't know what your talking about. They give a significant advantage to the pilot or gang fielding them in terms of armor resistances, shield resistances, buffer (not sure on that one) speed and more - depending on the type of links used.

It is only unfair if some people don't have access to it. Get boosts yourself. Problem solved.
Whats next? being notified if the person has implants in his clone? Because that doesn't give him an advantage *at all*, right?

Honestly, less QQ and more HTFU. There's less of the latter in EvE recently.



Sure you would've. I am convinced of it.



While cloaked, the boosting modules are off.But you knew that, right?


Boosting toons are fine. If you know someone is using them and NOT having them parked at a POS, it is most likely an AFK alt then. Put a dedicated prober in that dude's hunting grounds, and whenever there is an engageemnt and the booster is uncloaked and the pvp toon busy fighting, gogo gadget-o probes.
Killed more than one boosting alts after probing them out. tank is usually paperthin.

i don't have a main.
we are one.
This is my market-main, and i can't be arsed to relog ti another toon on my mobile phone.