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Duality online with first round of Odyssey balancing!

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#41 - 2013-04-23 11:32:44 UTC
chaosjj wrote:
How long will Duality remain open?

As its going thru its down time without help from the devs I would guess all the way thru fanfest. It gives the devs a counter argument to everyone that comes up and tells them how the ship balancing is broke. Twisted Have you tested your opinion on Dualty will be the most heard response this weekCool.

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Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-04-23 12:28:20 UTC
Salpun wrote:
chaosjj wrote:
How long will Duality remain open?

As its going thru its down time without help from the devs I would guess all the way thru fanfest. It gives the devs a counter argument to everyone that comes up and tells them how the ship balancing is broke. Twisted Have you tested your opinion on Dualty will be the most heard response this weekCool.

And the most heard reply to that should be "Yes, have you read my post about it on the forum yet?"
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#43 - 2013-04-23 12:32:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Pelea Ming wrote:
Salpun wrote:
chaosjj wrote:
How long will Duality remain open?

As its going thru its down time without help from the devs I would guess all the way thru fanfest. It gives the devs a counter argument to everyone that comes up and tells them how the ship balancing is broke. Twisted Have you tested your opinion on Dualty will be the most heard response this weekCool.

And the most heard reply to that should be "Yes, have you read my post about it on the forum yet?"

It should be but given the fact that the most I have seen on Duality was 14 players. That will not be the caseWhat?. Given that ship balancing is one of the easiest code changes to make there is plenty of time to make changes before release.

Wish the threads would get new dev feed back so they do not get asked the same questions over and over again during fan fest.

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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#44 - 2013-04-24 15:26:57 UTC
Why is no one on the test server? I remember large scores of individuals testing new content prior to previous releases.
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2013-04-24 17:55:31 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Why is no one on the test server? I remember large scores of individuals testing new content prior to previous releases.

alot of us were on Duality over the weekend, but never more then about 14 at once... too many people are just being tl;dr and waiting till it hits Sisi.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#46 - 2013-04-24 18:28:20 UTC
Pelea Ming wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Why is no one on the test server? I remember large scores of individuals testing new content prior to previous releases.

alot of us were on Duality over the weekend, but never more then about 14 at once... too many people are just being tl;dr and waiting till it hits Sisi.


lame lame lame. largest balance pass in a large number of years and people are just ignoring a perfect opportunity to test stuff out. I figure it's easier to just plug the new ship values into eft and draw conclusions that way Roll
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#47 - 2013-04-24 18:59:38 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:


lame lame lame. largest balance pass in a large number of years and people are just ignoring a perfect opportunity to test stuff out. I figure it's easier to just plug the new ship values into eft and draw conclusions that way Roll


Easier, yes, but also completely fails to address what's more important: How the ships actually fly. I will be on in a few minutes to further experiment with the new navy cruisers, most likely, at least.
Pelea Ming
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2013-04-24 20:01:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Pelea Ming
well, I tested out the Navy Omen in PvP, the Geddon, Apoc, and Pest in PvP, and both the Abaddon and the Apoc in PvE. If I haven't commented about it in this thread, then I don't see any real issues with it.

And if everyone is using Abaddon's with 1400s in alpha fleets to take advantage of their tank and yet avoid all it's cap issues instead of using Tachyons, Holy Crap! Maybe because there is something wrong with it's cap!

~Edit: Instead, we're going to nerf it's resists because this will stop them from doing so... ROFingL. Seriously, no, it won't, it will just make it slightly easier to kill, they will still fit it with 1400s because only a moron is going to set it up with Tachs when it can't support them properly.
Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#49 - 2013-04-25 03:12:59 UTC
FYI on Duality Mjolnir Precision Cruise are dealing kinetic damage instead of EM. It's also dealing the Fury level of damage as well (525) instead of 375.

Also I haven't stayed up to date with the entire Cruise thread, but I notice the base flight time on Duality is 10.5s instead of 14s as advertised in the first post. So which ever one is wrong should be fixed.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#50 - 2013-04-25 11:09:02 UTC
Matuk Grymwal wrote:
FYI on Duality Mjolnir Precision Cruise are dealing kinetic damage instead of EM. It's also dealing the Fury level of damage as well (525) instead of 375.

Also I haven't stayed up to date with the entire Cruise thread, but I notice the base flight time on Duality is 10.5s instead of 14s as advertised in the first post. So which ever one is wrong should be fixed.


The stats you are referring to are for untrained cruise missiles and an untrained Raven.

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Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#51 - 2013-04-25 14:01:03 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Matuk Grymwal wrote:
FYI on Duality Mjolnir Precision Cruise are dealing kinetic damage instead of EM. It's also dealing the Fury level of damage as well (525) instead of 375.

Also I haven't stayed up to date with the entire Cruise thread, but I notice the base flight time on Duality is 10.5s instead of 14s as advertised in the first post. So which ever one is wrong should be fixed.


The stats you are referring to are for untrained cruise missiles and an untrained Raven.
I'm not sure what you're getting at - you seem to be implying I've made a mistake. All the stats from CCP in the Cruise thread are base stats with no ship/skill modifiers, and so are the figures I've listed. I haven't compared stats with skills applied vs stats without.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-04-25 20:24:01 UTC
So much for being able to test these changes. moveme hasn't been working for several days, and at most there's 3-5 people online at any given time so you really can't do any testing.

These changes need to be put on Singularity.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Octoven
Stellar Production
#53 - 2013-04-29 02:12:55 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Pelea Ming wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Why is no one on the test server? I remember large scores of individuals testing new content prior to previous releases.

alot of us were on Duality over the weekend, but never more then about 14 at once... too many people are just being tl;dr and waiting till it hits Sisi.


lame lame lame. largest balance pass in a large number of years and people are just ignoring a perfect opportunity to test stuff out. I figure it's easier to just plug the new ship values into eft and draw conclusions that way Roll


If it were a bit more advertised then yes. CSM certainly was, the way I see it you have to get the word out to your players in other means then just one forum thread.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#54 - 2013-04-29 02:57:40 UTC
Octoven wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Pelea Ming wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Why is no one on the test server? I remember large scores of individuals testing new content prior to previous releases.

alot of us were on Duality over the weekend, but never more then about 14 at once... too many people are just being tl;dr and waiting till it hits Sisi.


lame lame lame. largest balance pass in a large number of years and people are just ignoring a perfect opportunity to test stuff out. I figure it's easier to just plug the new ship values into eft and draw conclusions that way Roll


If it were a bit more advertised then yes. CSM certainly was, the way I see it you have to get the word out to your players in other means then just one forum thread.

The devs will get cleaner data from fewer people this way and will be able to make some changes in isolation. When the rest of the features come to Duality some time soon we will get a larger group of players. That information will be pushed out more. The fact that duality is still open for those that want to test is a good sign.

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See you around the universe.
Shingorash
Stellar Defense Services
#55 - 2013-05-01 13:00:05 UTC
I login to the Duality server almost everyday but there is never anyone on to shoot at in random ships I want to test so I log off again.

If anyone wants to test some ships I will be on Duality at 10pm GMT.
Jalequin
Jalequin Corporation
#56 - 2013-05-04 23:40:14 UTC
No one in Duality. Got a whole universe to myself xD

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