EVE New Citizens Q&A

Ok so im a new player. Started doing Industry mission, however, when I try to go and mine for missions ( in 0.7 safe zones ), I get blown up by 2 pirate ships while mining. Lost 2 ships ( Rookie - Ibis ) now im stuck with no ships besides the Venture.. So my question is, what im soposto do now ? I asked for help in Rookie channel, got nothing, people tell me that you can get a replacement Ibis, yet im at the station and I get nothing..
Where do I go ? What do I do ? WTF, kinda game is this ?

Thanks,

I lost my first ship about a week ago in the Tutorial missions. Yes, can you believe it.
I loved that ship and I fitted it with the best it could handle. And when I lost it, I felt drained and confused.

The fact that I cannot load a previous "saved file" makes this experience different. But it makes learning from your mistakes so much more real.

Someone on the forum said something like "...buy ten ships and ten fittings and try each one until it works...."
So I did that and I eventually finished the Tutorial mission.

Best of luck out there.

Okay... not to sound patronizing... but stop take a step back. Let's go through some points so we can get you on the right track...

- As stated by Ines Tegator... you can get an almost infinite number of rookie ships by docking in stations where you have no ships. This means that they are completely disposable.

- A rookie ship, while good for most of the tutorials, is quite fragile and may not be able to stand up to later missions.

- The tutorials give you some ships for free... mostly frigates. These have much better stats (relative to the rookie ships) and have more room for modules and weapons (upgrades, if you will).
Note: that Venture you have can be made into a makeshift combat vessel superior to your rookie ship.

- When you lose a ship... don't sweat it. During your time in EVE you will lose many, many, MANY ships... often for no reason (that you can see at least). See your ships as tools and not something irreplaceable. Everything in the game can be replaced with enough time, effort, and intelligence.

- Some of the tutorials are designed to destroy your ship. This is to teach you (albeit, terribly) the above points so far.

- (IMPORTANT) One of the major themes for the game is conflict. You are competing with about 300,000+ other players no matter what activity you perform.
Some of your goals will coincide with others... in which case you can work with them to build and create. But there some whose goals may be at odds with yours... in which case you must destroy or assist in the destruction of others.

- (IMPORTANT) There is no "safe zone" in EVE. Anyone can attack you at any time. However, in high-security space (1.0 to 0.5 systems) the NPC police instantly kill anyone for unprovoked aggression... which means that it is "unprofitable" to attack random people without proper justification.**
**Note: "justification" is relative to the player... but the most common examples are being profitable enough to gank (i.e. the value of your lost modules and wreckage is greater than the cost to gank), assassinating someone you hate, and/or "giggles."

- (IMPORTANT) I won't lie... as a newbie you are at a disadvantage. But that doesn't mean you can't be effective in some ways.
Newbies can often find work and/or mentoring under veteran players... performing duties that the veteran(s) either doesn't wish to do or can't... running as a sort of wingman... you name it, there is a role you can perform out there... even with lacking character skills.
Newbies can also find professions by using skills outside the game itself. People skills are a big one and can often "open doors" that would otherwise be sealed to the rest of the "unwashed masses."

- (IMPORTANT) Be patient and have personal goals. This is a "process game"... not "get to level 90 and win." Find what is fun for you and work towards that goal. When you get bored of it, move on and try something else.

First sentence...good.

Second one...I disagree, Rookie chat has also people who just make trial accounts every now and then to help in Rookie help and the normal help has a bucket load more trolls in there.



As for your mission. Take a ship with guns in first and shoot the rats. Then reship to a ship that mines the asteroids.
Or take your venture (which is a dedicated mining ship) and pack 2 light drones to deal with the rats.

At least. I'm thinking you are talking about NPC Pirates (rats) and not Player pirates in this case.

on a side note, if you're ever at the point of needing an ibis, do it twice. (get in pod, dock at station, receive ibis, don't get in ibis, fly from pod to another station, get second ibis).

that way you can take the free gun / mining laser off the second ibis and put it on the fist ibis so you can either mine or shoot stuff twice as good as you could otherwise.

Thanks everyone, I figured it out.. It looks like the only station will give you a new Ibis, are the ones where you dont have any ships..

Yep that's the idea with the free ship, is that if you have nothing you can get something to fly in at least.

There are 2 missions in the combat tutorial where you definitely lose your ship

each mission tells you that you will lose your ship
the first is 'fly to this location and get blown up' --> use an ibis
the second is 'go kill these guys, until they blow you up' --> use a combat frigate with basic t1 guns
each mission rewards you with a free combat frigate, so losing 2 ships is no biggie


always remember that clicking the [Undock] button is basically like hitting [Accept] on an EULA
when you undock you might become a target, and you just agreed to it.

Wrong.

Rookie ships are not allowed in the first suicide mission, only frigates.

The second one is restricted to frigates and rookie ships, so a rookie ship is preferable as you can then keep the ship provided by the agent, which will be worth more than the insurance money you would get for suiciding it.

If you want, you can even rescue your modules from your rookie ship by warping out as your obligatory victim explodes, docking, stripping the fit, then warping back to the mission site to suicide the empty hull. A good early chance to practice gtfo tactics.