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Behold, Your Empress

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-04-23 18:52:51 UTC
Religious fanatics killing religious fanatics?

Behold my apathy.

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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#22 - 2013-04-23 18:55:55 UTC
Being awfully closeby and having the convenience of masked visitors not being frowned upon, I have attended some of the planetside festivities on Aphend IV personally; I can assure you the ambient is most charming.

I'd wholeheartedly recommend everyone else to come and enjoy themselves. I'd advise to bring your own assets however. The local ones are of somewhat... low quality. Can't complain about the ladies, though.

Send me a mail if you plan on visiting; I might arrange something special for you.
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Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-04-23 19:14:49 UTC
The foolishness and impropriety of a minority of people aside, it is not unusual for the Empress to encourage celebration and appreciation of faith and blessings.

While I am deeply disappointed in these displays of flagrance and debauchery, they are reflections of individual deprivation, not Imperial deprivation. I pray the local authority will deal appropriately and swiftly with these displays to discourage further similarities.
Vincent Pryce
Damnation Angels
Watch This
#24 - 2013-04-23 21:07:27 UTC
Uriel Khaden wrote:


While I am deeply disappointed in these displays of flagrance and debauchery, they are reflections of individual deprivation, not Imperial deprivation.


Brave or dumb, depends who you ask, of you to countermand the blessings of your Empress. Is she not supposed to be only second to God? Quite the bold move for such a little man. I applaud you for that, through defiance comes greatness - or spectacular defeat - entertainment none the less.

Still, is it Imperial one, when it's with the Empress' blessing, no?

"From your Curse we made Heaven for ourselves."

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Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-04-23 22:07:41 UTC
People are moved by Faith. Moved to an excess, beyond that which could be conisdered "safe", can happen in ways that can appear "positive" or "negative" to an outsider. However, the only one who truly and fully knows the impact of an individual's actions, is God, and we place our faith in God and our Empress that those things which come to pass during this time are wholly what was meant to.

I suspect that it is this outpouring of faith bringing people out of their comfort zones of the every day and onto virgin ground in their own minds and habits to better reach for God is the "excess" of which the Empress speaks -- but applying to everything happening in all of the revelery - that which could be percieved as good or bad.

When one reaches for the infinite, the results are unpredictable. We can only hope that each of us, individually, is prepared for what we will seize hold of.

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#26 - 2013-04-23 22:38:03 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
This is a purely internal matter and, thus, the sole business of the Amarr.


Is this the new stock answer for everything in order to stifle debate? Or does this only apply to those who comment on Caldari and Amarrian issues?

Not much point in this channel or any other communication medium in that case.

I'll be sure to regurgitate this response when there are Matari "internal matters" that the rest of you decide to comment on. When you do, I'll be certain to point out your hypoicrisy as well.

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Heinel Coventina
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-04-23 23:15:48 UTC
It's healthy for pend up energy to be released. You guys are suppressing your people too much.


Even though I don't necessarily like her, but,

LEAVE JAMYL ALONE!!!
Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-04-23 23:45:37 UTC
These accidents and extreme indulgences during the course of otherwise energetic but peaceful celebration are unfortunate. However it is worth keeping in mind that for each incident of poor judgement that makes it into the news circulation there are going to literally be millions, even billions of other people involved in celebrations at the same exact time that aren't hurting anyone. The Empress only encourages the celebration because she should not have to tell any self respecting Amarrian to temper their excitement.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#29 - 2013-04-24 01:42:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Does anyone really think that the Empress should put an Empire wide religious celebration on hold because of these deaths?

As one of the Faithful, I consider this loss of life tragic, and am ashamed that my Brothers and Sisters would behave so. At the same time, I believe this is a period of rejoicing. I want to give thanks for the many blessing God has bestowed upon my Kingdom, my Clan, and myself.

No, I think the correct response isn't to stop the revelry. It's to come together with our family and friends, and remember how precious they are to us. It's to lift a cup to the glories of the past and to the wonders of the future.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#30 - 2013-04-24 01:51:47 UTC
While I would never have made such an inference myself, it would appear that the news wires are not sure what to make of the empress of late:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/empress-jamyl-i-becoming-increasingly-erratic-reports-say/

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Cail Avetatu
#31 - 2013-04-24 02:47:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Makoto Priano wrote:
While I would never have made such an inference myself, it would appear that the news wires are not sure what to make of the empress of late:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/empress-jamyl-i-becoming-increasingly-erratic-reports-say/


This is the kind of sensationlist lies that I'd expect from Gutter Press, not from credible news sources. Though I suppose you can't trust anything that is not ACN. Her Imperial Majesty is blessed by God and has ruled with great wisdom, regardless of what this blasphemous report says.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#32 - 2013-04-24 02:59:03 UTC
I agree with you that this manner of speculation doesn't qualify as 'news' at all. It's the sort of editorializing and opinionated response we'd expect from discussion on the Summit. I would be more concerned if her advisors were making note of volatility.

As it stands...? The Scope is Gallente, and so we should naturally assume its reports are biased by Gallente editorial review.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-04-24 03:13:15 UTC
In the Empress' defense, it all comes down to simple mathematics.

With billions if not trillions of people celebrating, even outside of the Empire, odds are a handful are going to wind up hurting themselves. Say if there is a 1 in 100 million chance of getting hurt at one of these events, odds are that quite a few are going to get hurt when billions of people are involved.

Should a Gallente concert get canceled because of a booster addict overdosing himself in the crowd? You simply cannot let a massive minority of people decide the fate of the majority. Point is, nearly everyone celebrating is safe and enjoying themselves. Let them.

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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#34 - 2013-04-24 04:09:59 UTC
Interesting. So reports of Jamyl's aberrant behavior finally hit the mainstream press (something that's been hinted at and spoken of in hushed whispers for years, by the way) and you imperials brush just them aside as simply biased and sensationalized? She is a (cloned) human, after all, and prone to the same illnesses, physical and mental, that the rest of us are. Maybe you should do a little research rather than simply dismissing these reports out of hand?

You know, often where one finds large quantities of smoke, something is combusting nearby.

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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2013-04-24 06:47:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
The Empress is the Empress and as such it is wrong to publicly criticise her for as long as she is Empress.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#36 - 2013-04-24 10:31:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Makoto Priano wrote:
While I would never have made such an inference myself, it would appear that the news wires are not sure what to make of the empress of late:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/empress-jamyl-i-becoming-increasingly-erratic-reports-say/


Let's see what this erratic behavior is.
1) She's sometime quiet and lost in thought.
2) She's sometimes angry with others
3) She sometimes argues with herself.

I've seen those behaviors many time in people who are stressed and attempting to work under pressure. They're rather innocuous.

Remember, she's the leader of the largest empire in the Cluster, engaged in a Reclaiming against the Minmatar, and the Amarr's closest ally appears to be about to plunge into some times of internal civil conflict. Oh, and not the mention the ongoing Incursions.

It's not an easy job. She's the Empress, not a fabulous Princess from a holofilm. Nor is she a celebrity whose life we're expected to snoop in on and judge.

The other 'erratic' behaviors aren't difficult to understand. Someone under her moved forward with a wide-ranging reform without consulting her, so she got angry. When she saw the reform was having positive results, she supported it.

An no, the Empress hasn't issued any official statements about the internal problems of the Caldari. Anything she says could increase an already volatile situation. But do you really think she hasn't had private meetings with members of the Caldari government?

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-04-24 11:53:05 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
While I would never have made such an inference myself, it would appear that the news wires are not sure what to make of the empress of late:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/empress-jamyl-i-becoming-increasingly-erratic-reports-say/


What the "news" wants to make of the Empress is irrelevant. The Empire is not in the habit of bending to public opinion regarding its politics, policies or leader. For as long as the Empress remains on the throne of the Empire, she has the sworn allegiance of the Amarr Empire and all within it.
Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-04-24 12:22:13 UTC
“Our passion takes us to extremes that push us beyond everyday boundaries. Your actions appeal to the divinity that blesses my station, and it is only fitting that you would emulate it. Reach for heaven, fervent children of God.”

I can understand the necessity to let ones hair down. Indeed its important to have rest when doing Gods work. Dieing of exhaustion when its not called for does no one no good.

That being said the empress didn't say she endorses people ripping people off moving verticals. She said she understands that during sure merry making things can get.... interesting.

She also said for us to reach for heaven which for those of you not familiar with Amarrian phases is the same as 'walk with God' 'staying in grace' ect. This is a nice way of saying do what would be morally applicable and applying common sense. No one is saying those deaths are okay, they are expected however when people get too over the top.

I've heard of worse from sports fans honestly. The only reason this is reported on is because in the Empire its so damned uncommon.

Now if you excuse me my cup is quite empty and party is long from over.

Walk with God.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#39 - 2013-04-24 13:26:00 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
I expect topless-Jamyl costumes (including action swords) to be all the rage at this season's costume parties.



My last Jamyl costume won me a prize at a party.

I think this year... I will leave that to others.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#40 - 2013-04-24 13:27:53 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:

Let's see what this erratic behavior is.
1) She's sometime quiet and lost in thought.
2) She's sometimes angry with others
3) She sometimes argues with herself.


Sounds like... you know, everyone I have ever met.

Still, down with this sort of thing. Or something.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

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