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Archon V3

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Dogfishful
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-04-23 19:59:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Dogfishful
Pre V3:
http://i.imgur.com/STWoCtQ.png

Post V3:
http://i.imgur.com/rYZVpqd.jpg

The most notable difference is the engine length. The V3'ed Archon has a reduced main engine length, which is around a 100m reduction.

I don't like this new look and I prefer the older engine model. Why did CCP decide to shorten the length?
CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2013-04-23 22:31:13 UTC
Dogfishful wrote:
Pre V3:
http://i.imgur.com/STWoCtQ.png

Post V3:
http://i.imgur.com/rYZVpqd.jpg

The most notable difference is the engine length. The V3'ed Archon has a reduced main engine length, which is around a 100m reduction.

I don't like this new look and I prefer the older engine model. Why did CCP decide to shorten the length?

we didn´t like it

3D Artist
Lazarus Valkarov
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-04-23 22:58:24 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:

we didn´t like it


WE do however like the larger engines, that's what matters. : )
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
#4 - 2013-04-23 23:03:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tonto Auri
I don't trust it. Too much sheen in places, where it's completely inappropriate.
Makes the model totally toy-looking. Pretty and nice, but hardly "real".
Not to mention, "capital".
Looks especially bad with "High" shader quality. Like it all covered in machine oil.

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SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-23 23:14:43 UTC
To me, the new Archon looks cooler than the old one except for one thing. There is less black paint on it.
Lazarus Valkarov
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-04-23 23:19:26 UTC
I dislike everything about it. It looks more plastic than anything. You already know I hate the reduced engine size, which is always something I've loved about it. And it's entirely too shiny for an Amarr ship. As SMT008 simply put, needs more black paint. It looks less like it's going to send a swarm of drones out and more like it's going to throw legos at you in hopes that you step on them. Which of course, is far worse than any drone could ever do.
Dogfishful
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-04-24 00:37:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Dogfishful
I also share the same opinion as SMT008 does regarding the 'black paint' in the current model on TQ. It wasn't until I compared the two models one after the other did I realize how much more 'toy-looking' the V3'ed model looks, as said by Tonto Auri.

Lazarus Valkarov also hates the reduced engine size. This only adds to the toyish appearance. Remember all those toy models of famous objects in famous movies designed for little kids? All of them have exaggerated proportions, and this new Archon feels just this way: it has exaggerated proportions (in this case much smaller engine size).

At least can't we meet somewhere in the middle, increase engine length slightly on the new model and maybe make the interior structure darker than it currently is?

Edit: my main complaint is engine length, but if the inner structure can become slightly darker that would be a huge bonus as well Lol
Sven Viko VIkolander
In space we are briefly free
#8 - 2013-04-24 01:06:03 UTC
Unless it causes lag, big ships should be bigger...nuff said
melisant
Production N Destruction INC.
F O R M I C I D A E
#9 - 2013-04-24 01:17:32 UTC
Here is an idea for next April fools, swap the all carrier and super carrier models for one day. Sit back, relax and enjoy GD.

In all seriousness, I like the new Archon better, needs a little more black paint though like SMT008 said.
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2013-04-24 01:20:10 UTC
The only ship type that actually needs a size increase is the supercarriers really. The regular carriers could be a bit bigger, but theyre pretty good at the moment. (I also do wish to undock from the gallente admin nullsec stations that are so ubiquitous without bumping forever or fitting nanofibers, it's hard enough as it is in an armor rigged archon)
Xer Jin
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-04-24 03:43:43 UTC
i'm just here to point at the whiners and laugh haha
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#12 - 2013-04-24 03:51:34 UTC
Tonto Auri wrote:
I don't trust it. Too much sheen in places, where it's completely inappropriate.
Makes the model totally toy-looking. Pretty and nice, but hardly "real".
Not to mention, "capital".
Looks especially bad with "High" shader quality. Like it all covered in machine oil.


Noticed this problem on a lot of Amarr ships, actually, and also the Osprey Navy Issue. There's 'metal shiny' and then there's 'oily wet shiny', which is what a lot of Caldari ships are for no reason. I can't believe I'm saying this but the old shaders captured the gunmetal sheen of Caldari hulls better than the new ones. :s
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-04-24 05:12:29 UTC
I actually think it would look better with almost no engines. No need for visible e-peen when it's rocking resists.

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Legion40k
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#14 - 2013-04-24 08:47:43 UTC
Reduced engines are alright IMO, they always looked a little odd and now they're at least... stockier...

Still not sure about the colour I'm getting from my monitor - I can't shake the feeling its a slab of chocolate Shocked though I've no clue what to change (other than make the hull black like before) to fix the illusion of deliciousness in space

\o/
Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#15 - 2013-04-24 10:53:44 UTC
Of course when everything is V3'd and we get the new lighting, the shaders will look pretty different.
Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#16 - 2013-04-24 14:08:19 UTC
Black inside was better.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#17 - 2013-04-24 14:31:19 UTC
Archon looks good, I love all the force fields that were added to the carriers.

-k8

My Fanclub
George Wilkes Hill
Liam Neeson Never Dies
#18 - 2013-04-24 15:53:18 UTC
That new archon is awesome!
Ctaus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-04-24 16:39:06 UTC
I agree, its is a vast improvement on the old model. Of course it doesnt look exactly like the old model, that is a good thing as far as I am concerned.
Marcus Junius
Nephilim Ordo
#20 - 2013-04-24 19:55:13 UTC
Dogfishful wrote:
I think CCP will do much better if they listen to us customers more. I really don't think that a few artists should make changes based on their opinions and assume that the majority of customers will share their opinions. ...




I like the new Archon.

I would rather the Art department functioned as they do now than having players vote on the best proposed artwork.
A lot of man hours would be wasted on things never adopted. Far more than now.
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