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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#61 - 2013-04-23 22:37:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tah'ris Khlador
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Here is how we saw the war with you all:

Option A: Form up and watch you all sit in a station all day. Its obvious you all don't take many chances considering you don't lose very many ships. Either you all are roaming together or not at all. 1vs1 doesnt exist in your books.

Option B: We go along with our daily business and kill more in 1 day than you all kill in a week. Im sorry our alliance of 200 people didnt take 5 hours out of their day to give you attention on the Jita undock when we could be busy killing people that will take risks.

I've been cool with you all but I swear every corp has their rotten apple. I've even forwarded people in your direction that have offered to spend billions but yet here you are still talking.

With all of this said you don't deserve our attention.

What you can't do

We don't need logi


I'm confused on Option B. You seem to have who is on Hub undocks backwards. You know how hard it is to get Vimsy to go into Jita? It takes effort.

We specialize in high sec strategic warfare, not high sec blob/mob/hub camping warfare. And yes, we're not going to undock and die if that is what we anticipate happening. Though I did recently and didn't pull out. Now I'm expecting fugly kids.

Several of us do roam by ourselves, while others just seize upon opportunity to hunt with the group. Our roams are very specific, directed by intel and not willy-nilly jump all over the place. EVE is big and that is boring.

I will say I recently sat in a tornado behind Dodi hub because I was too lazy to do intel gathering at the time and all of our "juicy" targets were staying docked or logged off. That was an amusing adventure.

But you're right, we aren't able to take on fleets of frigates with a few spattering of arty naga's in place because our fleet comp is generally not speed ships...no, we probably could we'd just have to be smarter about warp ins. We will take 3 loki's into a fleet of 20 and have 12 of them run away though. EPEEN Waving. YAY!

Denzel Out.

EDIT: I am amused that you took enough offense to Vimsy's post to reply to it. You can call him a bad apple all you want, but he does get a rise out of people. He specializes in trash talking me, and when he can't do that, he trash talks everyone else.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#62 - 2013-04-23 23:13:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Hurr


And all that might be true if not for the fact that it was you guys who declared war on us, us who went to where you live to shoot you and you guys who either died without a fight or ran away and docked up when the mean people with the spaceships that have guns on them came and shoot at you. I'm ever so sorry about the part where we're hard to kill and fly in organized fleets with proper composition too, I guess we should just fly around ramshackle kitchen sink fleets like you guys, or camp trade hubs in tornadoes rather than go to where people are and try and kil them, I mean, clearly that's the the right way to do things. The logi whine is a nice touch, it's like I'm really reading a post by a carebear.

I also like how you guys think that killing a few T1 fit rail nagas is somehow a difficult achivement considering it's probably the single least appropriate fleet composition for highsec ever and that it actually had a substantial effect on burn jita, which it clearly didn't.

I don't understand how a member of a merc allaince that directly after being at war with our merc alliance changed their contract policy to specifically state that they weren't willing to accept contracts against other merc alliances can be delusional enough to believe they're not totally pathetic at fighting people in highsec.

What are you guys even for anymore? Isn't your niche of camping jita increasingly covered by Marmite, who're on the whole considerably more competent than you? I'm kind of amazed you haven't all been absorbed by a better alliance or moved to a type of space.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#63 - 2013-04-23 23:21:22 UTC
Confused Ugh Break-A-Wish Foundation flies in highsec ?

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#64 - 2013-04-23 23:50:51 UTC
Well, when we aren't playing planetside 2.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#65 - 2013-04-24 00:49:33 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Confused Ugh Break-A-Wish Foundation flies in highsec ?


We're actually overlords over in Jove space but, SHHH, that's a secret.

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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#66 - 2013-04-24 01:04:16 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Well, when we aren't playing planetside 2.


Pretty much this. It's all about those party buses on Vanu Connery! Pirate
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#67 - 2013-04-24 01:18:11 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:


I'm confused on Option B. You seem to have who is on Hub undocks backwards. You know how hard it is to get Vimsy to go into Jita? It takes effort.

We specialize in high sec strategic warfare, not high sec blob/mob/hub camping warfare. And yes, we're not going to undock and die if that is what we anticipate happening. Though I did recently and didn't pull out. Now I'm expecting fugly kids.

Several of us do roam by ourselves, while others just seize upon opportunity to hunt with the group. Our roams are very specific, directed by intel and not willy-nilly jump all over the place. EVE is big and that is boring.

I will say I recently sat in a tornado behind Dodi hub because I was too lazy to do intel gathering at the time and all of our "juicy" targets were staying docked or logged off. That was an amusing adventure.

But you're right, we aren't able to take on fleets of frigates with a few spattering of arty naga's in place because our fleet comp is generally not speed ships...no, we probably could we'd just have to be smarter about warp ins. We will take 3 loki's into a fleet of 20 and have 12 of them run away though. EPEEN Waving. YAY!

Denzel Out.

EDIT: I am amused that you took enough offense to Vimsy's post to reply to it. You can call him a bad apple all you want, but he does get a rise out of people. He specializes in trash talking me, and when he can't do that, he trash talks everyone else.


Ya you are more fun to talk to than he is. Guess pawns will always be pawns.

For every merc corporation out there, there is something they are good at. Our specialty is not sitting on hubs, not killing jumps freighters, not shooting pos's, and not even blobbing people to death. What we are good at is finding our wartargets wherever they may hide and make them fear the unknown of when we will come back.

The opinion that your corporation has formed on us, in my opinion, is that we hide in jita all day. There are several hints throughout your posting saying we live there, we died there, we kill there. Thats a horrible way to summarize our alliance based on one war dec that only 1 person was for. If I actually cared to fight you then there would be a lot more effort from my corporation and the alliance. Yes you did kill one of my corps frigates but rightfully he did believe it was going to be a 1vs1.

The loss

It's obvious which ship he thought he was trying to fight.

All in all you guys have a lot to learn about us and how wrong your public opinions have been so far. I linked our battle report with the goons because we shouldnt have won that fight by any means. Being in t3's versus less superior ships is different.

As I said before, I have forwarded quite a few merc contracts your way for one reason or another. Whores in Space isn't even 6 months old so if you still want to judge a book by its cover then so be it.

Closing statement: Before spouting success on who you've killed, check their killboard first. It's usually nothing new :)

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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#68 - 2013-04-24 01:34:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Adriel Malakai
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Yes you did kill one of my corps frigates but rightfully he did believe it was going to be a 1vs1.

The loss


He was actually afking in space at 5km/s. I picked up the dram to tackle him after scanning him down, then held him for the lols.

As far as our opinion on Whores, it comes from our experience being at war with you guys for two weeks. While I realize that only a small portion of your alliance wanted to be at war with us, the reality is that the vast majority of your membership stayed in Jita/Perimeter. We were constantly running locates on Whores (as we do on all of our war targets), and only a few of your members (including you and your alt) ever left the Jita area, and that only happened every few days.

It could have been that your members who are capable/willing to go further than 2 jumps from Jita weren't playing while we were at war, or they were in a different TZ. It also may be that you guys have changed, but what we saw was that you primarily camped Jita. There is a place for that in merc contracts,as should be obvious from how much business The Orphanage got, and now how much Marmite gets, but we find it incredibly boring and not as effective against non-null based entities.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#69 - 2013-04-24 02:01:42 UTC
They were in Amarr too. A few of them setup a camp to catch me at some point while I was on my way there, with both in corp and out of corp alts (ready to jump into alliance I presumed). It actually wasn't a terrible setup, but since they never tried to force me through it wasn't hard to avoid.

Also "rightfully believing it was going to be a 1vs1" in EVE is a fatal mistake that I hope he never makes again.

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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#70 - 2013-04-24 02:03:52 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Also "rightfully believing it was going to be a 1vs1" in EVE is a fatal mistake that I hope he never makes again.


Again, he was afk in space, burning in a random direction. No e-bushido involved, just him being stupid.
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#71 - 2013-04-24 04:10:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeus Maximo
Adriel Malakai wrote:


He was actually afking in space at 5km/s. I picked up the dram to tackle him after scanning him down, then held him for the lols.

As far as our opinion on Whores, it comes from our experience being at war with you guys for two weeks. While I realize that only a small portion of alliance wanted to be at war with us, the reality is that the vast majority of your membership stayed in Jita/Perimeter. We were constantly running locates on Whores (as we do on all of our war targets), and only a few of your members (including you and your alt) ever left the Jita area, and that only happened every few days.

It could have been that your members who are capable/willing to go further than 2 jumps from Jita weren't playing while we were at war, or they were in a different TZ. It also may be that you guys have changed, but what we saw was that you primarily camped Jita. There is a place for that in merc contracts,as should be obvious from how much business The Orphanage got, and now how much Marmite gets, but we find it incredibly boring and not as effective against non-null based entities.


I will give you that, you did fight us in the beginning when my corp first joined. Since then we have removed a lot of the dead corporations, fail pilots, and increased the pvp requirements to even get in. Alacran has done a good job recruiting recently so what you saw then is night and day compared to now. A quick look at our killboard will show that we do not live in Jita. Holeysheet from Marmite has proved how effective one guy can be when it comes to completely shutting down a trade hub and how many kills one guy can get. Yes we do have our insta-lockers but I would say 98% of our alliance will avoid jita/amarr at all costs! Personally I dont like to take 5 accounts into jita at once.....

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We've had 3,000+ kills so far this month and I want to say we have the highest ratio of "out of jita/amarr kills" of the major mercs. Not saying by any means that the others are ineffective, we just roam more often.

Im glad you are taking over the conversation because you are a better speaker than the other guy. I like Tah'ris too. You however are the reason why I have respect for your corporation. Maybe one day all of us mercs could get on the same page and completely shut down the nullbears in our own effective ways.....

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Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#72 - 2013-04-24 04:12:42 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
They were in Amarr too. A few of them setup a camp to catch me at some point while I was on my way there, with both in corp and out of corp alts (ready to jump into alliance I presumed). It actually wasn't a terrible setup, but since they never tried to force me through it wasn't hard to avoid.

Also "rightfully believing it was going to be a 1vs1" in EVE is a fatal mistake that I hope he never makes again.


Victor flies with that toon when his main in null has nothing to do. I guess he "hopes" to have a fair 1vs1 every now and again :P

Nonetheless, good kill!

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#73 - 2013-04-24 07:12:45 UTC
Time for a group hug, I like happy endings.....mmmm that sounds weird. Twisted

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