Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Haven't seen this many tears about supercaps since before the titan tracking nerf. Keep it up, poors, you are making my afternoon entertaining.

well what did you expect from tearicide...!

So there was a time not long ago when blowing up t2 frigs for plates was nearly viable.

With increased demand I would expect increased prices for materials as well.

Any thoughts on blowing up t2 frigs for plates?

Just to clarify; if I fit large Nanobot Injector rigs before the patch will they adopt the capital effect bonus after the patch?

Are the stats the same between large / capital T1 and T2?
Or are they going to make T1 capital rigs as good as T2 large rigs and then go up from there?

If you have a Carrier/Dread now... it's already rigged with t2 rigs (or can be), no differently than anyone else's carrier/dread.
After the patch, if you get a new Carrier/Dread... you will pay the same amount as anyone else to rig it... only the rigs will cost more.

Sure, if you compare the price of a t2 rigged dread/carrier before the patch, to that after the patch, there will be an increase in price. But so what?

I constructed 1000's of ships before the frig rebalance, cruiser rebalance, and BC rebalance, because I new the build costs of ships would increase post patch. I then sold them for a profit, but I didn't become super rich doing it, and anyone/everyone could do the same thing. People are mass producing BS's, hording ice, and hording zydrine because of patch speculation. If you are around for it, you can profit from it.

If people want to buy 1000 carriers, rig them with t2 rigs, with the hope of selling them after the fact for a profit, let it be so. Market speculation has long been a major part of every patch! 1000 t2 rigged carriers would require 2 trillion isk to invest, and pretend they made 2b isk profit on them, would net 2t profit, but that isk would be tied up so long the rate of return is simply untenable.

Now, if you're trying to argue that those 1000 t2 rigged capitals, pre-patch rigged and held in reserve, somehow give an alliance an unfair advantage because the next upcoming alliance won't utilize t2 rigged dreads because they aren't cost effective, you're simply off your rocker!!! This will make a very small difference in the overall metagame.

Every patch, those with knowledge and foresight get wealthier than those not planning ahead. I see no issue with this, as long as people have equal opportunity to capitalize on the very, public changes.

not sure....

but i think this guy is mad about something...

So, the plan is to make it harder (more expensive) to fit a capital ship.

Essentially, you've sold assault rifles on the cheap to players for years, and now that everyone with the assault rifles are friends, you're telling the new people fighting with rocks and sticks that to get an assault rifle in the future they'll have to pay an extra premium.

Makes sense. After all, we don't want EVERYONE running around with assault rifles, just enough to make certain entities untouchable, and everyone else insignificant.

So who is going to buy t2 rigs for anything smaller than mothership? whats the point of creating such thing like t2 capital rigs which nearly noone going to buy?

It was about time, yay I also hope CCP will in future do some rebalancign around rigs-there are few ones used very often and the rest is just useless, it should be fixed. Also I would like to see some new system with salvage-like using ton of t1 salvage to make t2, maybe even different ones. Something like salvage reactions