EVE General Discussion

Well for starters, HED is in Catch, not Providence, and isn't part of the Provibloc's territory.

* No one takes corps/alliances in Providence seriously.
When it comes to the nullsec powers, this is more or less true.

* Providence seems to get used as a hunting ground by people that want to annoy Corps that live there.
Not entirely accurate, provi is used as a "hunting ground" because it's a target rich environment compared to NBSI space.

* No one seems to like the NRDS way of doing things.
No one likes having neutrals roaming everywhere, and NRDS space is much easier to infiltrate and move around in because of said neutrals not being shot on sight.

* No one wants to Invade Providence because it has nothing of use in it.
If by nothing you mean no super resources like tech, then yes, also because we have silly amounts of stations.

Ah ok, so theres no tech moons there? How do you even find out where tech moons are? can that only be done with probe scans normally?

CVA Kos tool lists you as KOS right now. Just FYI.

I think the CVA KOS tool lists pretty much the entire Eve player base as KOS.

Yea I had a lot of cool conversations with neutrals in Provi when I was with blue to CVA. Also was fun watching roaming gangs come harass some gate camps.

With everything just on Extermination Mode it just isn't as fun. Gangs of 20 trying to surprise 3-5 people running hotdrops does nothing else other than cause a 50mil loss of a cruiser trying to find some fun.

Like isk is going to mean something -shrug-.

It's even funnier when you have that blob gang trying to trash talk you like some sort of mob mentality, but yea the ignorant can only get what they can I suppose lol.

I do sometimes miss Provi though =/

Generally they do a very good job of only listing people KOS who shoot not-KOS duders in Providence. Of course, if one dude in your alliance goes and shoots someone, that means you're KOS too. Some people don't seem to get that concept, I guess.



We're not laden with supercapitals and are generally welcoming of new players who haven't lived in 0.0 before. And generally, we have no territorial ambitions so we focus more on small gang PvP overall. Most corps/alliances in Providence aren't super serious and tend to be more casual, to the chagrin of bittervets that live in the area.



Providence is used as a hunting ground because people actually live there. The population density of Providence is very high, which means it's a target-rich environment. It also borders four entry-points from empire, two low-sec and two high-sec. When NBSI entities (The -A- pet club and NC./Evoke) held Providence, people used to roam through as well. It is one of the easiest 0.0 regions to access and roam through, no matter who holds sov there.

If you can live and thrive in Providence successfully, then you'll be able to live in any other sov-0.0 without issue. Rest of sov-0.0 is easymode on a day to day basis comparatively.



This isn't really true. While most pilots like NBSI because it's clean and simple, I like Providence as a place where you can go to learn null-sec mechanics. The only two reasons I live in Providence is because it affords lots of PvP and due to the fact that when I was a wee n00b, I hopped in a Drake and flew out to Providence randomly out of boredom. Flew through -7- gate camps, CVA gate-camps and nobody shot me, gave me any crap about it. Ratted in U-H without having to ask anyone permission, learned how to move around in 0.0. Didn't have to kiss anyones ass to do so.

Without Providence, your best bet to get into 0.0 is either a crappy renting situation or by joining up with the bluefest that views you as more of a isk-printing resource than a person. So yeah, most people don't like running NRDS as their RoE, but there are some great benefits for the game in general having a region that does run NRDS.



You can't really rent it out because it's so resource poor and porous as a region. If you're able to take space independently, there's far better space available for taking. And if you do end up taking the region, whatever pet alliances you install there will be constantly harassed by CVA/friends who then stage in nearby low-sec plus you still have to deal with all the bored roamers and pirate-types that have roamed Providence for years.

The best use for Providence is what CVA/friends use it for, which is small to medium gang PvP.

Overall, I *get* why people have such disdain for the region and the people that live there, it's a region that exists in stark contrast to how most people play the game so they freely hate on it. People like homogeneity and feeling like they are "winning" or "l33t" when they play video games. Providence doesn't appeal to the average gamers nature, which is in general, a good thing.

If you want to enter Providence just to explore what the region is like, be sure to run your name through the KOS checker at http://kos.cva-eve.org/ before doing so. And never fly through HED to get there, despite what autopilot will often tell you :)

Close.

* No one takes corps/alliances in Providence seriously anymore. (CVA used to be kinda tough, field decent small fleets, etc)
* Providences gets used as a hunting round by people that want easy kills. There are lots of easy kills.
* There's a lot of reinforcement that NRDS is bad, especially considering NRDS is like driving on the left side of the road, it's gonna get you killed, if everyone else is NBSI, but there are still a fair amount of people who like NRDS
* Providence has easy empire access, lots of stations, and good access to low end resources, but the main appeal to it, is the way the groups work together (or used to) to defend it, or earn money. Given that teamwork and RP isn't something that you can 'take over and capture/harvest', the effort to invade providence has only been justified the one time, IIRC, in the last what, 7 years, when -A- came in and kicked the sh out of CVA because they were making too much noise.


Hope that helps.