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What, webs aren't modules now?

A bonus to web range is an ability that only affects an active web module on your ship. A bonus to turret rate of fire is the same thing. A toggleable, short-duration ambush bonus associated, not with the active use of a cloaking device, but with the deactivation of one? Nothing remotely similar.

I could see there being some kind of hislot targeting system that could only work if you toggle it on while cloaked, and which would cycle once on decloaking... but trying to implement or represent such a bonus in a non-module sense would offer no clear way to indicate when the bonus was and was not active, and would be radically different from every other bonus in the game.

Okay... that's a very unusual sort of nonstandard bonus with no correlation to any of the usual sorts of bonuses, no way of tracking it, and no real reason to exist in the way it does. There's no reason to add lots of extra work to the development like that for no reason.

Not supported under those mechanics.

Uh... what? There are lots of weird bonuses out there that are dissimilar to everything else. The Rorqual's Industrial Core can crunch ore down to smaller size, Cyno modules create warp points for cap ships, Gang Links are only usable on a handful of ships, Smartbombs are entirely different from any other weapon system, and so on. In every case, note that they're represented by a module, and the bonus is not a bonus to the ship, but a bonus to the module, when fitted to the ship.

More interesting bonuses would be nice, yes... but like all bonuses in Eve, they'd be represented by modules.

Concept: I like it

Execution: NO

Here's what I would do, make a module that allows you to passively target someone while cloaked. Then the module will cool down for 5 seconds and after that time will automatically decloak you. Once you activate the module you cannot stop the decloak timer. This will allow you to prime your weapons and engage an enemy almost before you decloak. The victim then has to react, target (and depending on what ship your in that could be a while) and then engage you. Enough time for you to get a few volleys off. It creates the same effect without any complicated new mechanics. It's a passive targeting system with a decloak timer on it. Also as a side note, if you use it and your already decloaked, it acts like a Passive targeter.

TL:DR Add a decloak timer to passive targeters and enable there use while cloaked.

:) Are you saying people actually fly the Pilgrim?

Ok I love my Pilgrim but it doesn't have much use in a gank n shank black ops hot drop fleet.

Can't support the OP's proposal even though I like the concept as it is to complicated and potentially unbalancing but the above idea has merit.

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seriously bad idea. recons are recons no damage. get buddy to kill if you cant grind them to death slowly.

what i dont understand ,apart from this is very uneve like, is that why it has to be matar only?? come on everybody can fiqure it out that it is only good for the rapier with its arties,
even if something like would make it into eve , it should be balanced across all races

Alright lets shoot in the dark here.

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The prerequistes are chosen becuase thay make sense and that they also are some of the prerequisites for the Recon skill and covert ops cloaking device.

I feel that 5 seconds is more than enough time to do what you need to do. I think the decloak timer starts when you begin targeting the ship rather than after the target is confirmed locked so that this isn't overly abused to gank frigates, and so that smart pilots can still excape with some quick thinking.

In reguards to the original post I will say that there are way to many changes and rules. Simplistic solutions are the best kind.

Truth of the matter is that High damage low HP ships exhist in eve in the form of Stealth Bombers and the upcoming Tier 3 BC's. The role is already filled and there is no need for something as complicated as you original post to let recons do what bombers do already. If you don't believe me look at all the havoc a single bomb can wreck on a gate camp.

Recons are amazing ships and there capabilities are really amazing as it stands already. They are primarily an EWAR (Electronic WARfare) ship class, and they need to stay in that role to avoid being overpowered. Adding this type of ability and making it recon only really is a good way to alienate most of your potential supporters.

I have outlined a good solution and tried to make it as simple as possible while still trying to achieve the result you desire. This ability as it stands (even the way that I have presented it) would make lowsec Recons Only. There is no need for excessive damage output from a highly effective EWAR platform.

If you need DPS bring bombers, if you need EWAR bring recons, if you need versitility bring T3's, and if you need manueverability set up a BLOPS fleet. These are the basic standards for Covops warfare and they work amazingly well (save for the BLOPS, I would much rather have a T2 orca/mini-carrier as the portal platform). More options would be nice but they aren't required and would need to be balanced.

tl;dr OPs idea is bad, not supported.