EVE General Discussion

I was reading an old WoW article about Blizzards new game "Titan" and many people speculated that Titan might be WoW 2.0...
That made me thinking and I've got this very weak "conspiracy theory" idea.

I saw an advertisement for new Artists on EN24 and was thinking, CCP might be developing EvE 2.0?
I mean there are many small/very minor changes that would benefit the whole community and CCP doesn't want to fix them.

They didn't want to change the POS mechanics so soon, but thanks to the "Thread-Bomb" they decided to make a few minor changes...

There are rumours they want to take PI out of the game and put it into a smart phone game, they want to develop more web tools (I guess something like their own killmail, sov map, character/armory etc.)

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They have stated that they are working on a new mission creation engine with which they could create more and better missions but there is no other info about this at all. Not even rumours or speculations.

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Many people play with multiple alts, and I think everyone would appreciate a quick login/logout system, right now it takes 1-2 min for me to change characters.

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The coming User Interface changes are quite small (or at least they seem to me).

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So to sum it up. I have the feeling that CCP might be reworking EVE's entire engine. I'm a n00b, so I might be totally wrong, I have no experience with CCP, I don't know what they are capable of doing.

Is there any possibility this might be true?

Titan isn't WoW 2.0. It's a casual social network game. The reason it's not WoW 2.0 is similar why there won't be EVE 2.0. Reason being it's unnecessary and competes directly against your existing product. The EVE you see today is not the EVE that launched 10 years ago. There are still a few areas, that have not changed much, but most things have been rewritted several times already and will be rewritted as needed. There simply isn't a reason to make a EVE 2.0 and many reason against it.

The likely reason some areas have been left untouched is that they're good enough or uncool/hard to rework. Basicly meaning that they demand a significant resources to do, likely multiple expansion cycles, and are made less attractive by the fact, that you could get a lot of cool new additions to the game with the same amount of dev resources. "A new cool shiny feature!" sells a lot better then "Corp management no longer feels like being forced to solve an electrified rubik's cube by just using your tongue"

To be fair, if Incarna was worked on without it becoming the sole focus like it did when it was released, (as in to the detriment of the actual spaceships gameplay) there would probably be far less outcry and monument shooting. The other thing that is needed is choice. Right now I can choose to use the captains quarters or not (I personally don't) and that would need to remain (I can opt out of Incarna interaction and stick to the spreadsheets if I choose).

As far as Eve 2. No. That will not happen. They will continue to improve Eve over time as has happened for the last 10 years.

True, but it would also help if avatars served a purpose, say, with wreck exploration or similar. As it stands, all incarna content is essentially just a completely meaningless eye candy.

We have 20 different EVEs, from -1 to 1 in 0.1steps

explains why POS would shoot blues.

Saw Eve 2.0 and came expecting a FFXIV ARR reference... Left disappointed.

With the EN24 article, I believe it was about an animated show of some sort of which they where seeking talented artists to help.

With the bit about not doing small/minor patches now that would benefit the community you got to realise they as a company are not looking at things in the now but things in the future. Sure they could roll out a ton of hot fixes and updates now that would make a lot of us happy or they could wait for a larger project to finish and implement the patches into it. Doing this makes sure that the new project does not stuff up those minor changes that they put in in-between major patches.

Other stuff they may overlook as seeing it balanced for now and not at the top of the list of things to look at. That does not mean they do not know the problems people face it just means us as the players do not see the larger more complex picture they see and want to address... That or they are just mean... Which I doubt since talking to CCP_Bro and CCP_Fozzie is a blast.

Agreed... well mostly agreed.

The player base would have been fine with Incarna as it had been proposed... but what we got in comparison to what we were expecting sparked a lot of anger.

While the core concept was good and interesting, and we were shown some very cool things in development, those things that had appeal got dropped or reworked. Every step of the way the wrong decisions were made about what to focus on, what to offer initially, how to present it, what to drop... it became a vicious cycle that fed on itself until the version that was released could not have dissapointed/irritated the player base more if it tried.

I think there is still a place for a tie in that will bridge the gap between EvE and other related products like DUST.

On the bright side, I'm sure DUST has been a learning experience for the Dev team. Hopefully those lessons learned with eventually make their way into EvE.

The only reason for CCP to do an EVE 2.0 project would be to completely replace all the old code with new more efficient code from the bottom up, then build all the current stuff back on top of that. However, I think they are already in the process of doing that bit by bit.