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Account Banned - RMT - After buying a Character Via The Trade Forums With ISK...

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Accrecia Semah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-04-21 20:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Accrecia Semah
Just looking for some form of support regarding this matter...

As titled, Paid for a character (Regina Certamen) with ISK from PLEXing, i got from Shattered Crystal, a Day or so after the transaction was completed, i received an email from someone saying the character was advertised on ebay and to avoid it if poss, at this point i had already paid for and was in control of the char and some time has passed at this point, then yesterday the account was banned for RMT, pending an investigation.

Im somewhat annoyed at this, ok sure i understand that to fight these things there has to be a ban etc but im a victim of whatever the original owner has done, now on my only day off for the next 14 days i cant enjoy EVE!

Surely it can be seen via the sales post and via transaction history of ISK that this was not a RMT Sale..

Ive put in a petition earlier on to try and rebuke this, but so far ive had no responses, what sort of time-frame am i looking at for a response, does anyone know?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#2 - 2013-04-21 20:34:54 UTC
And petition will be your only way to know, forums won't be able to tell you anything. As for the time it takes, it varies but since you put in the petition all you can do is wait until it gets looked at.

Best of luck and sucky that it happened like that.

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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#3 - 2013-04-21 20:35:11 UTC
Something fishy was going on, or someone thought something fishy was going on.

If no fish was involved, just wait.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
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#4 - 2013-04-21 20:47:46 UTC
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rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-21 20:50:01 UTC
This issue is getting more and more common. A petition is the only way to solve it, but the system needs a serious overhaul.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#6 - 2013-04-21 20:54:08 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-04-21 21:35:56 UTC
Try contacting security@ccpgames.com directly

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#8 - 2013-04-22 13:27:46 UTC
When you do RMT you cannot protect yourself by selling the character from one of your accounts to another of your accounts, even if that sale is done with legitimate ISK. CCP will find you.

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Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-04-22 13:35:11 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
When you do RMT you cannot protect yourself by selling the character from one of your accounts to another of your accounts, even if that sale is done with legitimate ISK. CCP will find you.


So what should be done in your estimation if Accrecia is innocent and has no connections to RMT at all, except that she legitimately bought a character that had, unbeknownst to her, participated in RMT?

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Prince Kobol
#10 - 2013-04-22 13:51:33 UTC
Once again I ask why CCP has not totally overhauled the Character Bazaar and implemented an automated system.

At the moment buying a character illegally from the many websites out there is a lot easier then it is legally on CCP's own forums which is madness
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-22 13:51:51 UTC
Markku Laaksonen wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
When you do RMT you cannot protect yourself by selling the character from one of your accounts to another of your accounts, even if that sale is done with legitimate ISK. CCP will find you.


So what should be done in your estimation if Accrecia is innocent and has no connections to RMT at all, except that she legitimately bought a character that had, unbeknownst to her, participated in RMT?


yeah what this guy said.

Simply buying isk off ebay one time i dont think gets your banned, just a warning.

so its very likley that the account the char was on, or the char was used to launder isk from RMT or something equally shady.

I feel sorry you OP, booking off some time to play with your new awesome char only to have it ganked by CCP on day one must suck major expletives.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#12 - 2013-04-22 13:56:41 UTC
If innocent then he should do as suggested above, but realize that most of the time they are guilty when they post on the forums about it.

This is why it takes so long for a response. It's not that they are ignoring the situation, it just takes quite some time to do the kind of complete investigation necessary to prove that this isn't just an attempt to cloud a money trail.

It's very unfortunate for those that buy a dirty character unknowingly, but that's just one more community service that the botting community generates with their "harmless" activities.

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Azurae
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-04-22 14:01:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Azurae
Muad 'dib wrote:
Markku Laaksonen wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
When you do RMT you cannot protect yourself by selling the character from one of your accounts to another of your accounts, even if that sale is done with legitimate ISK. CCP will find you.


So what should be done in your estimation if Accrecia is innocent and has no connections to RMT at all, except that she legitimately bought a character that had, unbeknownst to her, participated in RMT?


yeah what this guy said.

Simply buying isk off ebay one time i dont think gets your banned, just a warning.

so its very likley that the account the char was on, or the char was used to launder isk from RMT or something equally shady.

I feel sorry you OP, booking off some time to play with your new awesome char only to have it ganked by CCP on day one must suck major expletives.


just to clear this up, RMT always is a permanent ban offense. even on the very first offense. so buying isk off ebay even just once and even just 1 million isk will result in a permanent ban for all of the accounts of that person, source: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/begun-the-bot-war-has/
(edit: and i think even if it was a year or longer ago you can still get a ban for it when they find out a year later)


@OP: all you can do is wait for a response on your petition now. these kind of petitions usually take some time before they are resolved because ccp has to be sure you aren't involved in RMT yourself and that the original account of that char wasnt hacked or anything for that sale. my guess is you won't see the char or your money during this week. it will probably take till sometime next week.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#14 - 2013-04-22 14:03:58 UTC
Step 1) Put character on character bazaar.

Step 2) Wait for someone to offer to buy character.

Step 3) Before transfer is complete, post character on E-Bay.

Step 4) Report E-Bay to CCP through 3rd party. Character is banned.

Step 5) Collect tears from buyer.

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Pepper Mind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-04-22 14:04:36 UTC
Character Trading via Bazaar neds no "overhaul". There are rules to be followed, if you don't do that, CCP will fix you or your problem.
In this case, it's annoying because of your only day left to play.
But you can be sure, that you won't be banned for long.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#16 - 2013-04-22 14:11:53 UTC
Petition/email CCP. Assuming you're legit and the ebay thing was the previous owner trying to do The Shenanigans I'm sure CCP will sort it all out. Sucks that you'll at best have to wait a few weeks without the char you bought, but this crap happens unfortunately.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#17 - 2013-04-22 14:29:23 UTC
Apparently you have other characters to play in the meantime.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#18 - 2013-04-22 14:31:29 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Step 1) Put character on character bazaar.

Step 2) Wait for someone to offer to buy character.

Step 3) Before transfer is complete, post character on E-Bay.

Step 4) Report E-Bay to CCP through 3rd party. Character is banned.

Step 5) Collect tears from buyer.

Sounds like an excellent way to get your own accounts banned. Blink

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#19 - 2013-04-22 14:33:39 UTC
This will be a productive thread. Roll

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#20 - 2013-04-22 14:38:35 UTC
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