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Burn Jita Too WHY?
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H2O Hairey
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-04-22 07:53:48 UTC
Jimmy Crikket wrote:
I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners?



1. Goons need to keep there hordes happy, with atleast something.
2. They want to go to Fanfest as "the talk of the town".
3. They bought up part of the market for weeks now.
4. Freighter / JF pre-production.
5. .....Goons don't even know what there doing.

It's Eve be happy something is happening, reports even come in off ganking in Amarr space.
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-04-22 08:00:32 UTC
Jimmy Crikket wrote:
However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? ... Burning isk for CCP?

Hello there! I'm contractually obligated to inform you that this event is not removing ISK from the economy at all. While I'm aware that the concept of "ISK sink" is a difficult one to comprehend, Burn Jita is not one.

Here's why:
Pilot Goon A buys a ship off the Jita market. He is now down on ISK, but up on ship. But that amount of ISK is not gone from the economy: Whoever sold that ship now has the ISK (except for the NPC fees, which you may correctly consider an ISK sink, albeit a very small one).
Assuming that Goon A is not a full-on ****** (which is entirely unrealistic, but let's still do so for the sake of argument) and doesn't insure his ship, no more ISK gets removed. If he does insure his ship, then there's another ISK sink because the insurance doesn't pay out on suicide by cop.

Now let's say we use 30 Brutixes to gank a freighter (you need about 22-25, but let's add a slight buffer). Each fitted Brutix cost about 60m ISK when we bought supplies, but let's be generous and say 70m. Worst case, that's 52.5m ISK in fees for all of the 30 Brutixes.

An uninsured freighter pays out something in the region of 300m ISK I believe (I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong).

That means that every freighter we gank is a net ISK injection into the game of (at least) 250m ISK. Of course you may also calculate build slot cost for the stuff, but you'll still not end up with a net sink.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#23 - 2013-04-22 08:05:31 UTC
Of course, Burn Jita is a huge mineral sink for the economy.

It's good times for miners; where are their thanks?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-04-22 08:05:31 UTC
Eh... It's all BS. They are just ganking the big frieghters or industrials and then selling em new ones at a mark up. Pirate
Dave Stark
#25 - 2013-04-22 08:14:39 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Of course, Burn Jita is a huge mineral sink for the economy.

It's good times for miners; where are their thanks?


trit has barely moved.

if goons want thanks for making a mineral sink, the miners will thank them when mineral prices actually move.
Grund Soul
The Bitter Vet Club Inc.
#26 - 2013-04-22 08:15:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Grund Soul
Jimmy Crikket wrote:
I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners?



For the luls and the and big booms.

Happy Anniversary Burn Jita!
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#27 - 2013-04-22 08:19:47 UTC
I find burn Jita hilarious

It's for all those people who play an MMO by themselves and don't read anything on the forums, it's kinda obvious to just avoid jita, how hard is that?
Radhe Amatin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-04-22 08:44:12 UTC
its was actually very fun.... i got some hate mail that made this whole weekend even better then it was :D

cheers goons for the event.....
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-04-22 08:46:58 UTC
I never did get any hate mail :(

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-04-22 08:47:50 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Of course, Burn Jita is a huge mineral sink for the economy.

It's good times for miners; where are their thanks?



What Malcanis said. I know my eyes glittered with happiness the first time I heard they'll be doing it. All that potential war profit! <3
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#31 - 2013-04-22 08:48:15 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I never did get any hate mail :(


Don't feel bad.

The only hate mail I have ever gotten is from posting on the forums.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Dave Stark
#32 - 2013-04-22 08:52:30 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
I never did get any hate mail :(


Don't feel bad.

The only hate mail I have ever gotten is from posting on the forums.


i haven't even managed that feat of greatness yet :(
Karig'Ano Keikira
Tax Cheaters
#33 - 2013-04-22 08:52:47 UTC
as an industrialist, there are few things that make me as happy as seeing thousands of ships explode in blaze of glory,
therefore full support to burning jita, it is good for economy :)
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#34 - 2013-04-22 09:04:20 UTC
Goons loosing isks along with people too rich to care about not undocking during a burn Jita with multibilion ships ?

Sounds worth it.

*Popcorn from WH*


Ps : Make sure to kill some nanoribbons carriers too !

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Grund Soul
The Bitter Vet Club Inc.
#35 - 2013-04-22 09:10:56 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Goons loosing isks along with people too rich to care about not undocking during a burn Jita with multibilion ships ?

Sounds worth it.

*Popcorn from WH*


Ps : Make sure to kill some nanoribbons carriers too !



You forgot a couple possible reasons, 1 they are stupid, 2 they are bots?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-04-22 09:14:29 UTC
Altrue wrote:
loosing

Don't ever do this heresy against the english language.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-04-22 09:25:08 UTC
Very good question, here are another few: Why do people fly around in officer fit Golems, shooting crosses all day? Why do they autopilot all their assets to jita? Why do they try to gather spaceriches? Why do people roam around low sec, picking fights? Why do people play games at all? What are they up to, besides of having fun? And what do the Iluminati have to do with it?
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#38 - 2013-04-22 09:27:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
Lord Zim wrote:
Altrue wrote:
loosing

Don't ever do this heresy against the english language.


Poor thing :p

You understood me, right ? It was my goal. I never claimed that I wouldn't try to make the english language cry a bit.

PS : You will have a hard time if you make a comment about any english mistake in this forum.

PPS : The art of being constructive is all about highlighting the mistake AND its solution.

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Grund Soul
The Bitter Vet Club Inc.
#39 - 2013-04-22 09:34:15 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Very good question, here are another few: Why do people fly around in officer fit Golems, shooting crosses all day? Why do they autopilot all their assets to jita? Why do they try to gather spaceriches? Why do people roam around low sec, picking fights? Why do people play games at all? What are they up to, besides of having fun? And what do the Iluminati have to do with it?


It must be part of a global conspiracy to distract the masses.
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-04-22 09:51:58 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Altrue wrote:
loosing

Don't ever do this heresy against the english language.

PPS : The art of being constructive is all about highlighting the mistake AND its solution.

Loosing a shot, loosening a screw, losing your keys.