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baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#21 - 2013-04-20 22:12:50 UTC This is the first film in a long time that had a twist in it that I wasn't expecting. Well worth seeing.

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#22 - 2013-04-20 22:31:29 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

This is the first film in a long time that had a twist in it that I wasn't expecting. Well worth seeing.

Interesting, because most of the reviews seem to be implying it is derivative of many other SF films. I'll wait on a rental availability.

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#23 - 2013-04-20 22:48:07 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

This is the first film in a long time that had a twist in it that I wasn't expecting. Well worth seeing.

Interesting, because most of the reviews seem to be implying it is derivative of many other SF films. I'll wait on a rental availability.

What isnt?

Lets face it, after 80 years of films theres not going to be a totally original story.

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#24 - 2013-04-20 22:49:36 UTC | Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor

baltec1 wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

This is the first film in a long time that had a twist in it that I wasn't expecting. Well worth seeing.

Interesting, because most of the reviews seem to be implying it is derivative of many other SF films. I'll wait on a rental availability.

What isnt?

Lets face it, after 80 years of films theres not going to be a totally original story.

Terence Malick's "The Tree of Life".

EDIT: Sometimes I think only SF fans can really understand what he is doing with the film.

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#25 - 2013-04-20 23:13:46 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

What isnt?

Lets face it, after 80 years of films theres not going to be a totally original story.

One of my favourite authors, Philip Pullman wrote the book that defined my childhood, he put in a disclaimer that he had stolen from a multitude of authors, for the mere act of reading a story generates its own iteration in every mind. All he could do was tell his one, through the lenses of language and story of every book he'd ever read.

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#26 - 2013-04-20 23:22:03 UTC

Kirjava wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

What isnt?

Lets face it, after 80 years of films theres not going to be a totally original story.

......but one can at least try for originality.

Do we really need the upcoming re-make of "Point Break"?

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#27 - 2013-04-20 23:57:05 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

New York Times 'No Likey'..........

Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Harrison Ford........these guys need to realize that age is becoming a reality, and need to be phasing in to different kinds of roles at this point. Their presence anymore can make a film seem a bit awkward.

The new Rob Zombie film is getting better reviews. Still, I'm more excited about Blomkamp's "Elysium".

Update: Oblivion Remembers Every Science Fiction Movie For You Wholesale!

You are way too concerned with other people's opinions. Kinda makes you a slave, a ***** to other people's words.. not attempting to be mean. That is just my view of when people do that to themselves.

When going to a movie, or reading a book.. it is best to clear your mind of everything and go along for the ride. How is it even possible to enjoy anything to it's fullest when you got other people's voices bouncing around in your head? Easily jaded.. the experience is going to be worse than it may actually be for you otherwise.

Originality can very much be in how the story is told.. not the story itself. Hercules and Jesus Christ's sagas come to mind, and there are far many more examples. Gilgamesh.. you have any idea how much is ripped from that story over the last 3000 years? I don't see how Tree of Life's story foundation is original.. but how it was told and portrayed, certainly is.

A movie should be how it makes You feel.. not how it makes someone else feel.

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#28 - 2013-04-21 00:12:20 UTC | Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor

Umega wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

You are way too concerned with other people's opinions. Kinda makes you a slave, a ***** to other people's words..

Observing the criticism of others is in no way being a 'slave'. EDIT: that would mean being 'forced' to accept any arbitrary criticism by an outside party.

You are just typing words with the assumption that they mean truth.

We can only come to our own truths by reading the opinions of others as balanced with our own beliefs.

Critical dialogue is one of the primary means through which innovation emerges.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

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#29 - 2013-04-21 00:16:35 UTC

Umega wrote:

I don't see how Tree of Life's story foundation is original.. but how it was told and portrayed, certainly is.

Roger Ebert said it best with " It's not what a movie is about....it's about how it is about itself".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

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#30 - 2013-04-21 00:42:37 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Umega wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

You are way too concerned with other people's opinions. Kinda makes you a slave, a ***** to other people's words..

Observing the criticism of others is in no way being a 'slave'. EDIT: that would mean being 'forced' to accept any arbitrary criticism by an outside party.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Roger Ebert said it best with " It's not what a movie is about....it's about how it is about itself".

Are you sure you are just 'Observing'? This isn't the first time you use other people's lines vs someone's opinion concerning movies.

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Eurydia Vespasian Storm Hunters Likes received: 18,737	#31 - 2013-04-21 04:17:52 UTC 3 maybe i'm deranged...but i like most of tom's films. i love tom cruise as an actor. i just don't like tom very much as, well....tom. i think i'll watch "the last samurai" when i go to bed. but, idk, it always makes me cry at the end.

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Tank Talbot Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 196	#32 - 2013-04-21 04:43:23 UTC Critics be hanged, I'll still rent the film from Netflix and buy a bag of popcorn to go along with it on the first movie night it's available.

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#33 - 2013-04-21 05:33:39 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Aerethir El-Kharisti wrote:

When Tom Cruise gets to play Tom Cruise he can be tolerable.

I've found his more uncharacteristic roles more interesting, like in "Minority Report", and "Magnolia" especially.

That is true, but he would fall through if he did get a role like this today. He has lost this loving feeling to Scientology.
Not trolling, I seriously believe, he has lost some ability for good non "action-figure" play, and I speculate if this is due to his engagement to Scientology and what it teaches about the mind. Good acting requires a good contact to one's psyche, also the more dark spots, to really burn through the screen, elsweise you have just a mimic. And Scientology and its practices normally throw the banhammer on such things and therefore make the acting bandwith smaller.

With great power comes great electricity bill.


Aerethir El-Kharisti Likes received: 341	#34 - 2013-04-21 05:35:07 UTC also, I probably still watch the movie. Seems like it does go down the hatch in the proper setting :) With great power comes great electricity bill.

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Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate Likes received: 1,231	#35 - 2013-04-21 08:28:18 UTC \| Edited by: Mina Sebiestar i give 0 credit to anyone that is not me commenting on movie..will watch it today when i wake up it is 3:30am and i am 58,692km from station i undocked..damn waste of sleep time. You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear Because >>I is too hard

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#36 - 2013-04-21 08:45:32 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Kirjava wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

What isnt?

Lets face it, after 80 years of films theres not going to be a totally original story.

......but one can at least try for originality.

He was admitting the futility of originality in this day and age.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai Likes received: 5,954	#37 - 2013-04-21 09:03:44 UTC Originality means a higher chance to fail in earning a profit from the investment of making a blockbuster film. There was that article on why blockbuster films suck, and "money" was the ultimate reason... here: http://www.cracked.com/article_19012_5-hollywood-secrets-that-explain-why-so-many-movies-suck.html

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#38 - 2013-04-21 11:55:05 UTC

Umega wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Umega wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

You are way too concerned with other people's opinions. Kinda makes you a slave, a ***** to other people's words..

Observing the criticism of others is in no way being a 'slave'. EDIT: that would mean being 'forced' to accept any arbitrary criticism by an outside party.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Roger Ebert said it best with " It's not what a movie is about....it's about how it is about itself".

Are you sure you are just 'Observing'? This isn't the first time you use other people's lines vs someone's opinion concerning movies.

You are just being an a**.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

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#39 - 2013-04-21 11:58:54 UTC

Kirjava wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Kirjava wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

What isnt?

Lets face it, after 80 years of films theres not going to be a totally original story.

......but one can at least try for originality.

He was admitting the futility of originality in this day and age.

True. David Lynch is very original in his ideas. But then, nobody wants to give him money to make a film anymore, despite the success of "Twin Peaks" "The Straight Story" and "Mulholland Drive".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882


Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate Likes received: 1,231	#40 - 2013-04-22 06:28:01 UTC Been there seen it and didn't waste my money the biggest cliche in movie is Morgan Freeman role and that is telling enough about rest of the movie. And while plot can be associated with many works..this one is..displaced...to make it work. You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear Because >>I is too hard

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