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Does Anyone Else See Cerebral Accelerators As Pay To Win?

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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#1 - 2011-11-01 16:52:45 UTC
I think many will agree that anything which reduces the time line of the learning curve for new players is a good thing, but CAs aren't available without a cash injection that many new players will be hesitant to make.

Also, where is this leading? Cerebral Accelerators that just run on and on and are available at the Nex store?

I also think many will agree that isn't something we want.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-11-01 16:55:07 UTC
you arent likely to be winning much in the first 35 days of an account

get over yourself

it isnt leading anywhere, its just a friendly legs up for the first month of a toons life, god knows new players need all the help they can get.

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Twisted Alice
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-11-01 16:55:13 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
I think many will agree that anything which reduces the time line of the learning curve for new players is a good thing, but CAs aren't available without a cash injection that many new players will be hesitant to make.

Also, where is this leading? Cerebral Accelerators that just run on and on and are available at the Nex store?

I also think many will agree that isn't something we want.



Pay to win, not at all.

It's only active for about 30 days (might be 35) and it can only be used on new accounts.

How many month old characters do you know that can win Eve?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2011-11-01 16:55:20 UTC
No. Largely because nothing is won.
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#5 - 2011-11-01 16:55:41 UTC
Isn't this only available for first 30 days of characters newly created?

I have a friend who got one with my buddy trial program, and he has been able to get into a Harbinger and is happy as ever because of it.

It's a good little perk...

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Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2011-11-01 16:56:10 UTC
If I remember correctly you get a CA when you start a new char anyway and have done for a while. The only cash injection is moving off a trial account on to a fully paid account.

If you don't want to fork out for that then why are you looking at a subscription based game?
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-11-01 16:56:17 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
I think many will agree

No What?

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#8 - 2011-11-01 16:56:26 UTC
i thought they expired after a set amount of days?

who cares about those implants when you can just buy a character :/
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
#9 - 2011-11-01 16:59:07 UTC
TBH, Cerebral Accelerators have been around for at least a year for new characters under 35 days of age.

The first time I remember seeing them was when they were available in a retail box edition sometime around when the Domination expansion was released, and probably a bit before then.

So if CCP was going to make them available to everyone without a time limit, I think they would have done it by now.

Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.

MNagy
Yo-Mama
#10 - 2011-11-01 16:59:36 UTC
I plan to buy another account and for the next 32 days I will conquer the whole eve universe.
I dont know what you are skilled in, but you must really suck at it if your worried about these new toons to crush you.

If giving someone a tiny bonus for the first month of play - im all for it.
Eve is a game that is a very steep complicated learning curve. The more you get a new player to 'play' in the start, the faster they will learn it and enjoy it.

Instead of losing all the customers that say 'this is too complicated' and never put in more than the first 5 hours worth.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-11-01 16:59:52 UTC
you all probably missed the speculation

Also, where is this leading? Cerebral Accelerators that just run on and on and are available at the Nex store?

And if that happens nothing is won, last time i checked implants are destroyed when your pod cease to exist.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#12 - 2011-11-01 17:00:18 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Serial Chi wrote:
i thought they expired after a set amount of days?

who cares about those implants when you can just buy a character :/


They only work for the first 30 days after the character is created, yes.

These have been in the game for awhile. They used to have them in the officer edition of the game alongside one of the special shuttles as well.

But those, just as the ones now, only work for 30 days.

And they cant be handed to an older character either. They work for the first 30 days after the character is created, and not for 30 days after you plug them in regardless of character age.
Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-11-01 17:00:50 UTC
Pay to win?
Just training skills faster...
Not something that I would call pay to win, something to incentive to keep the players in the game, mostly of the new gang leave due because they are impatient and EVE requires A LOT of patience.

Loud and clear...

JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#14 - 2011-11-01 17:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Takamori Maruyama wrote:
Pay to win?
Just training skills faster...
Not something that I would call pay to win, something to incentive to keep the players in the game, mostly of the new gang leave due because they are impatient and EVE requires A LOT of patience.


They also increase your rate of fire and damage.

But again, also only for first 30 (oops 35) days of the character. :P

Cerebral Accelerator
Cerebral Accelerator Cerebral accelerators are military-grade implants that significantly increase a new pilot's skill development. This technology is usually available only to naval officers, but CONCORD has authorized the release of a small number to particularly promising freelance capsuleers.

This implant primes the brain's neural pathways and hippocampus, making it much more receptive to intensive remapping. This allows new capsuleers to more rapidly absorb information of all kinds, and as a bonus also enhanced spatial processing abilities that are critical for weapons handling.

The only drawback to this implant is that capsuleer training renders it ineffective after a while; as such, it will cease to function for pilots who have been registered for more than 35 days.

Bonuses: +3 to all attributes; +20% Damage to Laser, Projectile and Hybrid weaponry; +20% Rate of Fire to Missile weaponry.

Cha Mod +3
Int Mod +3
Percept Mod +3
Will Mod +3
Mem Mod +3

Damage multiplier bonus +20%
Rate of fire bonus -20%
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#15 - 2011-11-01 17:09:00 UTC
Hmmm. One person got the point. Oh well.

I understand that Eve is not a game that can be won.

The point I'm trying to make, though, is that I have four accounts, and I've been playing for 2.5 years, and had never heard of a Cerebral Accelerator until CCP's advertising. I suppose that is my fault. But the impression I had/have is that you don't get a CA without paying extra. For a boxed set for instance.

Is that not true?
Twisted Alice
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-11-01 17:09:01 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:


Cha Mod +3
Int Mod +3
Percept Mod +3
Will Mod +3
Mem Mod +3

Damage multiplier bonus +20%
Rate of fire bonus -20%








Rate of fire bonus only works on missiles, damage bonus only with turrets.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2011-11-01 17:11:43 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Also, where is this leading?

Higher new player retention.
RaTTuS
BIG
#18 - 2011-11-01 17:11:55 UTC
they used to be given out with some box sets - they accelerator only works until the character is 35days old,
so you can plug it in ,
train cyber 1
plug in +3's
and have effective +6 for that time - as long as you know what your training it is useful....

http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://i.imgur.com/kYLoKrM.png

Barakkus
#19 - 2011-11-01 17:12:40 UTC
You know, you're like a year and a half late on complaining about this.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Twisted Alice
Doomheim
#20 - 2011-11-01 17:12:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Twisted Alice
ACY GTMI wrote:
Hmmm. One person got the point. Oh well.

I understand that Eve is not a game that can be won.

The point I'm trying to make, though, is that I have four accounts, and I've been playing for 2.5 years, and had never heard of a Cerebral Accelerator until CCP's advertising. I suppose that is my fault. But the impression I had/have is that you don't get a CA without paying extra. For a boxed set for instance.

Is that not true?



That's not true any longer.



They also give them with the new account you start if you take up the power of 2 offer.


Plus I believe they are now giving them to any new paid account.
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