EVE General Discussion

Steps to under(mine) the New Order:

Just some musings offered freely.

I should be clear that philosophically I find myself sympathetic to the New Order. Unfortunately, I also find myself philosophically aligned with mayhem. I also have a different arc of narrative I am pursuing so enacting what I am going to suggest is of no interest to me, even if I had the minimal resource needed. Finally, it should be noted that what I am going to suggest is in line with the implicit meta goals of the New Order while at the same time under(mining) their operations. If they object to the suggested actions or even try to spin them they will be participating in both a Heresy and Hypocrisy. The same is true if they do not care. The path of the true believer can be a thorny one.

There is contained within the New Order credo an inherent Heresy. The theology is based on that all actions should contain risk, presumably commensurate with reward. No place is Safe, nor should it be. The argument about their own risk associated with High Sec operations is CONCORD. They developed quite a few ingenious strategies for mitigating said risk, which is great. However, the business model itself contains no risk. It functions as a basic 'mob style' protection racket. If the miner pays their fee and maintains their license there is no risk to the New Order since in fact who the miner is mostly being protected from, in theory, is the New Order. I have seen no promises extracted, for instance, by miners that the New Order will protect them from anyone else, or even provide some actual benefit by escorting them into areas where the NPCs constitute an actual threat. Simply a negotiating error easily rectified.

This however should be the case since they are told that if they abide by the Code (remain actively at the keyboard, etc.) it will be safe for them to mine. This is what the New Order promises in essence, though it is also a contradiction of their basic theology. Based on their own theology this is not something they can or should promise unless they are willing to make it so to the best of their ability. Miners, it is a false promise. Not because they do not mean it, but because they are participating in a Heresy. In doing this they have also created a relatively rich market place for anyone who wishes to take advantage of it.

The Heresy
The Heretical forces should have no identifiable (charismatic) single point of leadership. There should be no one I particular against whom to act.

The Heretical forces should consistently identify miners with New Order loyalty oaths in their bio's and target them relentlessly. This is easily done by simply going into a system and running profiles for their presence. Even if they are actually at their keyboards their license has probably lulled them to see extent. They have paid. They are safe. They just need to maintain the appearance of the Code in order to mine in peace. Often the reasoning behind having purchased the license is because it is cheaper than losing ships, unless they are also among the faithful of the New Order, which some are.

If carried out this simply and directly under(mines) the contract and authority of the New Order. Why would I pay for a license when I actually receive no benefit. The new order has created a targeted market of profitable miners for independent gank gangs via their business model that based on the philosophical underpinnings of the Code itself should be exploited.

This does not probably seem a good idea to miners who have purchased a license. Because a market has be created what I am suggesting is going to happen anyway, so you should prepare yourselves. Perhaps though it was an wise business decision for you, you have some suppressed irritation at feeling forced to but such a license and adhere to a Code you yourself did not and would not write? What can you do?

Once this begins to happen miners within the New Order should take several actions. They should demand and continue demand increased levels of security from the New Order, forcing the Knights to endure the same mind numbing sedation they themselves are 'forced' to endure by being at their keyboards. The miners should constantly spam all Knights with requests for this additional security, whether or not there is imminent danger, since according the Code there is always imminent danger. You have been treated as cowardly and spineless and you actions denigrated. Do not resist this. Act it out in the most flamboyant full blown ways you can imagine. Wheedle. Cry. Whine. Constantly. Demand voice comms and CONCORD like response times. Claim breach of contract when this does not happen. Become a customer base requiring service. Act out every assertion of entitlement ever leveled against you. Have fun doing it.

Part 2 to follow.

Please make a summary I will update this post when your wall of text becomes easier to read, I am old and my eyes hurt

beat me to it

I like where this is going allready. More hisec drama = more entertainment for me! *popcorn*

Yawn.....

Your whole strategy seems to be based on the false assumption that the New Order protects code-compliant miners from external threats, or that we claim to do so. This is not true - we encourage all third party gankers to ply their trade wherever and however they wish. We do not provide security - we merely enforce the code.

Also, a lot of words for somebody who says that he doesn't actually have any interest in carrying out this plan himself.

IN THE FIRST POST

So, as usual, it's someone else that needs to do something. Anyone else, doesn't matter who really, as long as it's someone else.

Nupe. I have my own endeavors. In addition to which, this is not 'doing nothing'. Please not the organizational nature of the strategy as well. I am not involved, but mostly any miner involved should be seen to be doing nothing while making outrageous and incessant demands on all channels of communication available. Different story for gankers wanting to capitalize on the targets swearing the fealty oath conveniently creates. I am vaguely considering some form of participation along those lines. But as I said, not really my interest. Or to be more specific I am more interests in something else.

Yep, still sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Long on words short on content.