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Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
#1 - 2013-04-19 05:57:38 UTC
Hey guys,

I recently took a dive into production and such and since profits are better in T2 stuff then in T1
(i know, exceptions, markets, yaddah yaddah)

I was wondering: How are people able to produce so many T2 BPOC´s to keep production running ?

And what kind of decryptors (if any) are you guys using ?

Invention is chance based so even with a 80% success rate on let´s say T2 Guns you can keep
a "steady" stream of BPC´s ok.

But those would be one-run copies. So how do you keep the assembly lines working constantly ?
using decrpytors with a +9 run factor dramatically reduces cinvention success and costs a lot....

I mean building a batch of 200 T2 425mm Railguns would mean sooo much clicky di click....

So, whats the most efficient way ?

thx in advance

"Gotta spend money to make money" "A fool talks, a wise man listens" "He who doesn´t wanna listen, talks the most"
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#2 - 2013-04-19 06:14:07 UTC
Research used to produce T2 BPOs, which are still ingame. People who own those can queue up a months production at a time.

Some people have lots of accounts, ie if you have 3 accounts, you can have 90 (or 99) jobs queued, so you could have 30 copy jobs and 60 invention jobs running at the same time, but yes it is tedious.
Kraillach
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-04-19 06:33:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kraillach
i use 3 chars atm for invention and production. it does take a lil time but honestly the biggest time sink is haulin all the mats for production.

i would suggest a POS to keep stocks up - invaluable to someone who CBF flyin between NPC stations to put invent jobs on. N.B - a medium caldari pos can hold 7 labs Big smile

build out of NPC stations, therefore u get max labs on ur pos.

i do allocate 1 of my production slots to buildin 30 days worth of fuel blocks at a time, not as easy as buying but u save iskies.

u mention decryptors, id say only use them on the big things - mack/hulks, marauders etc and i would use the ones that give +3me/pe and 10% bonus invent chance.

yes it will only give u 1 run but the saved cost on mats is more valuable than the extra runs per t2 copy.

but between all that once u do it for a while and u get a rhythm built up then it will take u less time.

N.B - i dont bother copying bpo's i just buy bulk from a few ppl that supply the bpcs for the things i invent, and i have em workin hard as i got through 500+ bpcs a week when i get lazy and am watchin anime, 1000+ when im on the ball.

after checkin my eve isk per hour i have an average success rate of 48.9% across the board and ive only got invent skills trained to 4, will work on 5's at some point.

i will be on in about an hr, if u have any q's feel free to convo me.
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
#4 - 2013-04-19 07:20:53 UTC
Kraillach wrote:
i use 3 chars atm for invention and production. it does take a lil time but honestly the biggest time sink is haulin all the mats for production.

i would suggest a POS to keep stocks up - invaluable to someone who CBF flyin between NPC stations to put invent jobs on. N.B - a medium caldari pos can hold 7 labs Big smile

build out of NPC stations, therefore u get max labs on ur pos.

i do allocate 1 of my production slots to buildin 30 days worth of fuel blocks at a time, not as easy as buying but u save iskies.

u mention decryptors, id say only use them on the big things - mack/hulks, marauders etc and i would use the ones that give +3me/pe and 10% bonus invent chance.

yes it will only give u 1 run but the saved cost on mats is more valuable than the extra runs per t2 copy.

but between all that once u do it for a while and u get a rhythm built up then it will take u less time.

N.B - i dont bother copying bpo's i just buy bulk from a few ppl that supply the bpcs for the things i invent, and i have em workin hard as i got through 500+ bpcs a week when i get lazy and am watchin anime, 1000+ when im on the ball.

after checkin my eve isk per hour i have an average success rate of 48.9% across the board and ive only got invent skills trained to 4, will work on 5's at some point.

i will be on in about an hr, if u have any q's feel free to convo me.



thx guys for the answers and pointers.
i guess T2 production ain´t so "passive" as it sounds.
so starting production runs for T2 guns, for example 425MM Railgun II, i would have to clicky di click every 2,5 hours.
adding that to hauling stuff, managing buy orders and other things.. i guess the overal isk/h aint so good anymore...

so am I correct that finding the right products to invent / built is key to maximize isk/h...again. like always. market research...
*sigh*

and I thought managing 4 toons to build pos fuel was work :-)



"Gotta spend money to make money" "A fool talks, a wise man listens" "He who doesn´t wanna listen, talks the most"
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-04-19 08:40:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Use max-run T1 copies for modules, ammo and drones, not a 1-run copy.
When invented they give you a 10-run T2 BPC.

Use 1-run T1 copies for ships and rigs.
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
#6 - 2013-04-19 08:43:14 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Use max-run T1 copies for modules, ammo and drones, not a 1-run copy.
When invented they give you a 10-run T2 BPC.

Use 1-run T1 copies for ships and rigs.




ahhhhhh..... this clears stuff up. thx mate

"Gotta spend money to make money" "A fool talks, a wise man listens" "He who doesn´t wanna listen, talks the most"
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#7 - 2013-04-19 10:14:38 UTC
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Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-04-19 15:06:58 UTC
Shanara As wrote:

I was wondering: How are people able to produce so many T2 BPOC´s to keep production running ?

And what kind of decryptors (if any) are you guys using ?

You need more than one character making copies. And the copies in a POS. Otherwise you have a 3+ week wait time in highsec to get a copy slot.

I personally only use decryptors on very expensive items such as ships. And I only use the decryptors that raise ME.

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?group_id=731

In a very extreme example, consider jump freighters (I ran these numbers about a month ago for a corp mate, so they were correct a month ago, but most likely not today). A jump freighter sells for about 6.5 billion isk. If you use the decryptor that adds 3 to the ME (tuning instructions for Caldari), then you can build a Rhea for about 5.4 billion isk. If you use the decryptor that adds 9 to the number of runs (interface alignment chart for caldari), then it costs about 7 billion isk to make a Rhea.
Haulie Berry
#9 - 2013-04-19 15:43:30 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:


And I only use the decryptors that raise ME.



That's... stupid. There's generally an optimal decryptor to use (depending on what you're making and the current price of invention and construction materials), and sometimes it happens to be one that reduces ME. Arbitrarily "only using the decryptors that raise ME" is a good way to cheat yourself out of money.