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Titan Bridges… Fair or Not?

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ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#161 - 2013-04-18 23:29:39 UTC
the butthurt and emo rage is strong in this thread... All this cos a bigger fish pi55ed in ur pond hahahahaha
Dragnarok
Tork n' beans
#162 - 2013-04-19 03:17:40 UTC
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
the butthurt and emo rage is strong in this thread... All this cos a bigger fish pi55ed in ur pond hahahahaha


Saying "butthurt and emo rage" only leaves me with on comment to make "How... fragile of a princess are you? That at the sight of hearing or reading something you don't agree with instantly makes you feel like you are showering in "carebear" tears."

Okay! More comments to make.

This is quiet pathetic at most.

Saying butthurt is quiet offensive to those who actually are. Saying the things you said in your comments is like a 40 year old virgin saying he is not one cause he had *** with a pie. Well, sorry there Buzz Lightyear, I forgot how fragile your shell is that anything that doesn't go your way, your world is shattered and all of the sudden your life makes no sense so it is time to turn into Yosemite Sam.

How thin thy skin ar? Rage?! Butthurt?! Do you live in a glass house? Grow up and start wearing big boy/girl clothes and don't forget your apple... everyone knows that is the sure way to get to your teachers good side... in your case bring the whole darn farm.

Now listen Daffy Duck, my tears is not the topic, the topic is "Titan Bridges"... For the life of me I don't know how you could have missed that. Do you need a personal memo or something? Well, whether you want one or not here it is in the form of me fisting at you in disappointment. If my tears you want... well you got them, in the form of disappointment and regret... in the same form as Carl Grimes had when he didn't put down the same zombie that bit and killed Hershel Greene. I liked Hershel, and for the life of me I put down the zombie in the forest, but this one zombie has friends, that constantly get up and somehow have enough skills to type letters into words and form sentences.

Sorry to break it to you Sherlock, but you and your kind of lonely trolls need to stop trying to find any deeper meaning so to make a meager attempt at understand my psyche, and to make some cheap remarks that a 5th grader can make (unless you are stuck in that phase... I am sorry and completely disregard this post).

In order to understand the psyche of your fellow human beings, you need a level of certain "deduction reasoning" (you lack plenty), a certain level of intelligence (you lack here too) and most definitely a magnifying glass so that you can read between lines (in this case you will need an electron microscope). I said what I wanted to say, straight forward and was not holding back any feelings (or tears) as you so very much enjoy to point out like all the other zombies. Yes you have enough deduction reasoning & logic as that of Inspector Gadget... ehem! I mean as much as that toaster he has hidden somewhere in his cranium.

Go on, and live your life, but get a thicker skin, cause it takes a lot more to make me a possible candidate for a role in the movie Angry Management.... 2

Dragnarok
Tork n' beans
#163 - 2013-04-19 03:47:18 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
why should something be fair?


Cause I'm paying for it? Gee I dunno. If I was looking to pay for something that is unfair, I would just stick to real life and no games. I thought playing games was to have fun... sorry must have missed the memo where it says games are here to break your ****, and "EvE" is your second life.. for which you have to pay.

I already do pay for something completely unfair... and that is my university degree for which my professor finds it fair to belt curve my mark down from an A to a B+ so that they can show to the program director "Hey! Look here how hard my course is, that no-one can get a good mark easily. *wink* *wink*". Sure I'm butthurt on this regard, and do occasionally tear up when I'm trying to understand a professor that can't explain worth of *** and can't speak Engrish worth of ***... my bad, Engrish he speaks it fluently, it is English he was having hard time with. So I study harder than I should, since my TA's are garbage and my teacher is a moron who only has time for you if you got shaved legs and a pair of nice melons (I know cause we put it to the test, we sent a guy and a girl to ask the same question, guess who received the help and who didn't)... I might as well as just study from home (since half the time my professor is trying to clean the droll from his mouth due to lack of dopamine injections) and just end up paying $10 for my diploma after I've written every single exam for my program.

Is this a good example of what you were trying to insinuate at when you asked "why should something be fair?", or did you loose me? If you lost me, here is some dopamine and articulate your thoughts better, and give it to me straight.

Thank you.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#164 - 2013-04-19 05:30:49 UTC
The only thing I see coming out from underneath bridges, is quite simply - trolls.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#165 - 2013-04-19 05:51:34 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
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Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#166 - 2013-04-19 05:54:14 UTC
Don't give away our tactics!
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#167 - 2013-04-19 06:04:18 UTC
Oh. It's this topic.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.

SAJUK NIGARRA
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#168 - 2013-04-19 12:56:19 UTC
Dragnarok wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
why should something be fair?


Cause I'm paying for it? Gee I dunno. If I was looking to pay for something that is unfair, I would just stick to real life and no games. I thought playing games was to have fun... sorry must have missed the memo where it says games are here to break your ****, and "EvE" is your second life.. for which you have to pay.

I already do pay for something completely unfair... and that is my university degree for which my professor finds it fair to belt curve my mark down from an A to a B+ so that they can show to the program director "Hey! Look here how hard my course is, that no-one can get a good mark easily. *wink* *wink*". Sure I'm butthurt on this regard, and do occasionally tear up when I'm trying to understand a professor that can't explain worth of *** and can't speak Engrish worth of ***... my bad, Engrish he speaks it fluently, it is English he was having hard time with. So I study harder than I should, since my TA's are garbage and my teacher is a moron who only has time for you if you got shaved legs and a pair of nice melons (I know cause we put it to the test, we sent a guy and a girl to ask the same question, guess who received the help and who didn't)... I might as well as just study from home (since half the time my professor is trying to clean the droll from his mouth due to lack of dopamine injections) and just end up paying $10 for my diploma after I've written every single exam for my program.




Man, why do all unfair things happen to you ?
Jonasan Mikio
Must Remove Snow Flakes
#169 - 2013-04-19 13:25:04 UTC
Dragnarok wrote:
Hello everyone,

I am writing this forum page in hope to get CCP’s attention. To get CCP’s attention, I first need to get my fellow peers attention. The purpose of this forum is to discuss whether Titan Bridging in Low-Sec should have any sort of LIMITATIONS or INDICATIONS of a possible bridging.

The reason behind this is because, my corporation along with our coalition live in low sec Pirate, and we have been bridged 6 times by bigger coalitions and stronger alliances ON DECEMBER ALONE Shocked. Obviously if you got a Titan at your disposal, you certainly have a bigger advantage on smaller corporations. Now, wrecking a gate camp or a roaming fleet of 5 ships with 30 to 40 ships thanks to Titan Bridges, whether they have SKILLS OR NOT is a different forum Topic Blink.

My propositions are:
1. Limitation
My propositions regarding Limitation are a lot, but I will propose only one of my ideas. My idea regarding limitation on a Titan Bridge would be to limit a Titan Bridge to Null-Sec area only. By doing so, those who CAN Titan Bridge will have to deal with corporations and alliances that can do the same.

2. Indication
My proposition on this matter is that ships that have a Cynosural Field Generator I (or for that matter any type of Cyno modules) should have some physical property on the ship that they are fitted just as turrets do. When you click Look At on a ship, an experienced PvP pilot can recognize and distinguish different type of turrets installed on a ship to asses his/her chances of winning an engagement against his/her foe. Such a thing should be possible for ships that have a Cyno fitted to it. By doing so, you give a chance to the pilot to decide whether he/she should or shouldn’t spring the trap.

As things stand right now, corporations that own Titans have a huge field advantage over smaller corporations.

Note: Please, use and post on this forum only if you have Pros. Vs Cons to point out for my propositions. Otherwise you are humbly requested to ignore and not post anything unconstructively. Thank you for your collaboration.


The cyno thing I completely agree with.. but blocking hot drops in low sec is a rather bad idea.


You are small now, and as a small fish you have to know your limitations, and how to find bigger fish to help you out. However if you keep up and dont let the other fish gobble you up, then one day you will be a big fish and that day, when you realise how important force projection is. Well you will want JBs.

If all you want to do is run around in 5-6 man BC or Cruiser ganks and gank stuff, well then stop picking on people who have jump bridges.
Jonasan Mikio
Must Remove Snow Flakes
#170 - 2013-04-19 13:29:47 UTC
Dragnarok wrote:
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
the butthurt and emo rage is strong in this thread... All this cos a bigger fish pi55ed in ur pond hahahahaha


Saying "butthurt and emo rage" only leaves me with on comment to make "How... fragile of a princess are you? That at the sight of hearing or reading something you don't agree with instantly makes you feel like you are showering in "carebear" tears."

Okay! More comments to make.

This is quiet pathetic at most.

Saying butthurt is quiet offensive to those who actually are. Saying the things you said in your comments is like a 40 year old virgin saying he is not one cause he had *** with a pie. Well, sorry there Buzz Lightyear, I forgot how fragile your shell is that anything that doesn't go your way, your world is shattered and all of the sudden your life makes no sense so it is time to turn into Yosemite Sam.

How thin thy skin ar? Rage?! Butthurt?! Do you live in a glass house? Grow up and start wearing big boy/girl clothes and don't forget your apple... everyone knows that is the sure way to get to your teachers good side... in your case bring the whole darn farm.

Now listen Daffy Duck, my tears is not the topic, the topic is "Titan Bridges"... For the life of me I don't know how you could have missed that. Do you need a personal memo or something? Well, whether you want one or not here it is in the form of me fisting at you in disappointment. If my tears you want... well you got them, in the form of disappointment and regret... in the same form as Carl Grimes had when he didn't put down the same zombie that bit and killed Hershel Greene. I liked Hershel, and for the life of me I put down the zombie in the forest, but this one zombie has friends, that constantly get up and somehow have enough skills to type letters into words and form sentences.

Sorry to break it to you Sherlock, but you and your kind of lonely trolls need to stop trying to find any deeper meaning so to make a meager attempt at understand my psyche, and to make some cheap remarks that a 5th grader can make (unless you are stuck in that phase... I am sorry and completely disregard this post).

In order to understand the psyche of your fellow human beings, you need a level of certain "deduction reasoning" (you lack plenty), a certain level of intelligence (you lack here too) and most definitely a magnifying glass so that you can read between lines (in this case you will need an electron microscope). I said what I wanted to say, straight forward and was not holding back any feelings (or tears) as you so very much enjoy to point out like all the other zombies. Yes you have enough deduction reasoning & logic as that of Inspector Gadget... ehem! I mean as much as that toaster he has hidden somewhere in his cranium.

Go on, and live your life, but get a thicker skin, cause it takes a lot more to make me a possible candidate for a role in the movie Angry Management.... 2




Ok look ill bite and counter your proposed topic with reasons instead of tear farmers...


Alright bro, so a lot of people have alot a metric **** of isk out in low sec generating them isk. The ability to bridge forces to defend your poses and pocos is very important. We are empire builders, we dont have time to sit around guarding our pocos and poses from 5 man gangs and shiz... or our space... To us eve is something more then running gate to gate looking for simple fights or easy pickings.


If you are picking on corps and alliances you shouldnt be, they dont have time to deal with your asses either. Bridge a fleet on you, and move on.. .we got **** to deal with and its not your little 6 man gang. If you want GFs, then look for them in an alliance/corp your own size.
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#171 - 2013-04-19 14:09:11 UTC
Dragnarok wrote:
A wall of rage that doesnt make sense and naming as many fictional characters as he can to make himself look smart



So your gatecamp gets shitcanned by more people than you have on a gate boooo hooooo .... ccpz nerf ne counter to my camp plox ty.............

Grow up man you try and belittle neone who doesnt agree with you but make urself like a raging child.............


Dragnarok wrote:
I already do pay for something completely unfair... and that is my university degree for which my professor finds it fair to belt curve my mark down from an A to a B+


I lolled

How is this relevannt that u have a **** poor RL?



Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#172 - 2013-04-19 14:12:34 UTC
cyno ships should have a big clown hat on so you can see they are up to no good, cheating, thieving, cyno popping, gank gang having..... WASTERS!

not really, calm down brah

dont like it? go back to high sec

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#173 - 2013-04-19 14:23:57 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Dragnarok wrote:
If I was looking to pay for something that is unfair, I would BUY A LOKI BOOSTER.
Fixed Big smile

Everything in Eve is unfair. You should go play a game that doesn't favor bittervets either explicitly (skillpoints) or implicitly (they have already captured the "market" - whatever the market they're in).
Dyphorus
Inritus Astrum
#174 - 2013-04-19 16:28:52 UTC
Dragnarok wrote:
Wey'oun wrote:
show me on the doll where the nasty piwates hotdropped you


seriously all these people bitching about titan hotdrops. its easily avoidable just get scouts in the titan home systems, be intelligent, its not difficult. This new eve attitude is what is killing eve. 'oh noes somthign that beats me, i must forum complain about the mechanics rather than think of a solution via ingame methods'



We have scouted, and we have found out about some of the Titan pilots... but then a new Alliance or Coalition comes in and drops a fleet over our heads, then another one, and another one, and so on. Would you believe me if I told you after we got wrecked by a 16 man fleet hotdrop, we chased them and forced them to log off in stations with a fleet of 6? Would you? Their biggest ship was BCs (several of them), our biggest ships were BCs too (we only had 2 of them). We chased them with our fleet so that we could kill as many of them as possible before going down... yeah, we did. Guess what they did. They warp to me, their scout jumps in the system where my 5 friends are, and all of their fleet scatters like roaches from the gate we were at... After they trashed talked for like 5 min they logged off. 10 min later they log back on and run. This is what we have to deal with, with bigger fleets that catch us by surprise but run like cowards at the sight of fleet put together to counter them (even if they outnumber us by 3 to 1).


So you know, I too would do a Titan-Bridge on an unsuspecting fleet for the LOLs of it. But I WOULD REFUSE to use it a Warfare Tactic against a small corp or coalition. I would give the small corp a fighting chance... and believe me, PvPing in EVE would be far more fun than it is right now. IF I were to use a Titan-Bridge as a warfare tactic to BLOB a fleet on a daily basis, I am pretty much admitting that I am scared of that corp and that I don't have what it takes to PvP. SO MY GOOD SIR, I AM NOT THE ONE WITH THE ATTITUDE WHO IS KILLING EVE, BUT YOU ARE. Denial at its finest. YOU REFUSE TO SEE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES AND SHOW SUPREMACY BY TAKING ON THE SMALLER CORP ON AN EQUAL FOOTING. Go use your Titans against corporations that can use Titans too. All you are doing is picking on the weaker corporations so to make your kill-board look better. Hence, the definition of coward. Now, If you have a brain you would realize that what I am saying is true, and that you do have access to better resources at your disposal than corporations like mine. And if you are intelligent, you would not respond and continue this pointless discussion. But if you do not see eye to eye with me, then please realize that I will just agree to disagree with you. Have yourself a nice day, and keep on flying with the you belief that I am the one ruining EvE.

Taunting you and ridiculing you any further will defeat the purpose of this Forum-Post, and it will derail this Post away from my scope of posting this forum. So do me a favor (and also the likes of you) to please move along. You are welcomed to post a discussion board about my POST, and i will be more than happy to join that post and discuss with you to your hearts content.

Now, for the rest of my peers that have something constructive to add to this forum, I MUST APOLOGIZE for taking such a lengthy post to respond to this coward and the likes of him.


You're really QQing about larger corps not playing fair with smaller corps? You do realize your tears just encouraged a dozen more pilots to buy a Titan to drop you with?
Jonasan Mikio
Must Remove Snow Flakes
#175 - 2013-04-19 20:48:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonasan Mikio
Dyphorus wrote:
Dragnarok wrote:
Wey'oun wrote:
show me on the doll where the nasty piwates hotdropped you


seriously all these people bitching about titan hotdrops. its easily avoidable just get scouts in the titan home systems, be intelligent, its not difficult. This new eve attitude is what is killing eve. 'oh noes somthign that beats me, i must forum complain about the mechanics rather than think of a solution via ingame methods'



We have scouted, and we have found out about some of the Titan pilots... but then a new Alliance or Coalition comes in and drops a fleet over our heads, then another one, and another one, and so on. Would you believe me if I told you after we got wrecked by a 16 man fleet hotdrop, we chased them and forced them to log off in stations with a fleet of 6? Would you? Their biggest ship was BCs (several of them), our biggest ships were BCs too (we only had 2 of them). We chased them with our fleet so that we could kill as many of them as possible before going down... yeah, we did. Guess what they did. They warp to me, their scout jumps in the system where my 5 friends are, and all of their fleet scatters like roaches from the gate we were at... After they trashed talked for like 5 min they logged off. 10 min later they log back on and run. This is what we have to deal with, with bigger fleets that catch us by surprise but run like cowards at the sight of fleet put together to counter them (even if they outnumber us by 3 to 1).


So you know, I too would do a Titan-Bridge on an unsuspecting fleet for the LOLs of it. But I WOULD REFUSE to use it a Warfare Tactic against a small corp or coalition. I would give the small corp a fighting chance... and believe me, PvPing in EVE would be far more fun than it is right now. IF I were to use a Titan-Bridge as a warfare tactic to BLOB a fleet on a daily basis, I am pretty much admitting that I am scared of that corp and that I don't have what it takes to PvP. SO MY GOOD SIR, I AM NOT THE ONE WITH THE ATTITUDE WHO IS KILLING EVE, BUT YOU ARE. Denial at its finest. YOU REFUSE TO SEE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES AND SHOW SUPREMACY BY TAKING ON THE SMALLER CORP ON AN EQUAL FOOTING. Go use your Titans against corporations that can use Titans too. All you are doing is picking on the weaker corporations so to make your kill-board look better. Hence, the definition of coward. Now, If you have a brain you would realize that what I am saying is true, and that you do have access to better resources at your disposal than corporations like mine. And if you are intelligent, you would not respond and continue this pointless discussion. But if you do not see eye to eye with me, then please realize that I will just agree to disagree with you. Have yourself a nice day, and keep on flying with the you belief that I am the one ruining EvE.

Taunting you and ridiculing you any further will defeat the purpose of this Forum-Post, and it will derail this Post away from my scope of posting this forum. So do me a favor (and also the likes of you) to please move along. You are welcomed to post a discussion board about my POST, and i will be more than happy to join that post and discuss with you to your hearts content.

Now, for the rest of my peers that have something constructive to add to this forum, I MUST APOLOGIZE for taking such a lengthy post to respond to this coward and the likes of him.


You're really QQing about larger corps not playing fair with smaller corps? You do realize your tears just encouraged a dozen more pilots to buy a Titan to drop you with?


We just got two, so we can hot drop their hot drop that hot drops our hot drop, and come out on top with a ninja hot drop to hot drop their hotdrop!

What time is it?

*takes off sun glasses*

looks like its hot drop o clock!
Khalid DeCroix
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#176 - 2013-04-20 06:32:48 UTC
No one cares. The whole point of a titan bridge is to hotdrop people. Which is what you're complaining about. And not everyone in null owns a titan....This argument can be boiled down to: I don't own a pretty, shiny ship and my alliance is too fail to own one. Thus no one should be able to use them against me qq.

There's plenty of ships I don't own for whatever reason. Is it fair if someone uses them against me? Go play WoW or some other game....
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#177 - 2013-04-23 18:39:28 UTC
Look at all these people that can't afford a Titan; Saying they have no place in Lowsec is laughable.

What has no place in lowsec is all you self-entitled whiners.
iPod Nubz
7-2 Ronin
#178 - 2013-04-24 04:56:52 UTC
agreed on the self-entitlement!

you're ganking people on gates, taking full advantage of being "overpowered" compared to them.
EvE isn't fair, pvp isn't in an "arena".
Don't be static on a gate, be aware of other corps and titans.

Here's a pro-tip noone told you:
ADAPT!!!
have one or two (even a single one would help you HEAPS) ECM boats on gate. Figure out which one suits the situation best.
1) target (and possible bait) jumps
2) point+jams, maybe even webs (use skirmish links, it'll allow you to be further away)
3) target jammed and held in place? kill.

should he light cyno and have nothing pointed and youstill get caught (light cyno - open bridge - jump through bridge - load grid - start targeting ... it takes quite some time), then proceed to uninstall eve or seek a different activity because you're bad at PVP amd honestly don't see it.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#179 - 2013-04-24 05:36:23 UTC
Dragnarok wrote:

Sure I'm butthurt on this regard, and do occasionally tear up



We can tell.



Chill dude - it's only a game.

If someone blows your **** up - go and blow someone elses **** up.
You will feel better if you do this.

Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#180 - 2013-04-24 07:51:17 UTC
When has "fair" ever been or ever will be a consideration in EvE?

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law