Science & Industry

Of course I meant warp stabs. I don't know why I wrote scrams.

Did you bother to read the rest of the thread, where the reasons you're wrong were detailed?

I'll spell it out real slow.

Pre-Crucible, the lowest cost gank ship with 10k Alpha cost ~40m to lose. Post-Crucible, the lowest cost gank ship with 10k Alpha cost ~70m to lose.*

40 is less than 70, so Crucible made ganking more expensive.

*Numbers are approximate.

There is your answer. A tanked Orca with 100mn MWD...and never fly afk.

I think you are both wrong. The overall odds are the same in either case. The only difference is that breaking up the stack decreases the odds of nothing dropping. Personally if I had the choice between ganking a target with 2B in one stack, and a target with 2B in 10 stacks I'm going to gank the latter as I'm very likely to get 1B in loot. In the case of the former I'm rolling the dice on a single stack dropping. I guess it depends if the gankers are fond of the gamble or are just in it for the tears with loot just paying expenses.

this is an awesome suggestion, short and sweet. i use my legion for all bios and red frog for expensive cargo

Freighters had no changes from the corp hangar change. Same rules apply as they did before. Don't fly with a stupid amount of isk worth of times, and don't use it unless you have to. If it fits in an orca, use the orca.



Orca's have much more EHP then a freighter, and hell they have more EHP then most highsec ships. Its still your best option to moving high value items. But the answer is really quite simple. You can no longer move redeculious amounts of high value items at the same time any longer. You can still double wrap items in courier contracts but then you have an orca flying around with just a few m3 courier contract which will be suspicious.

New rule with the orca is fly like you expect to lose what you're hauling. Don't want to lose 10 1B isk BPO's? Well be prepared to make 5 - 10 trips.



A blockade runner is like using a garbage bag to transport a large amount of money, where an orca is a tank. Sure you'll get home baster with the garbage bag and no one can see in side, but the moment you run into someone just shooting anyone with a garbage bag (which is often these days) you lose everything. Go with the ship that can withstand large scale ganking attempts vs the ship that can be one shot killed.



Orca still will out run a deep space transport ship in align/warp time from all my testing. Orca beats it in ehp, align, warp, cargo. The only bonus to a deep space transport is the warp strength and cheaper ship.






It's auctually much shorter if you don't level the mwd skill that increases duration. IIRC my orca pilot will align/warp in 6 seconds. Also when you undock from a station, hit the stop button. Once you get about 1/3 speed hit warp and your mwd. Once the mwd cycles you'll warp meaning you can skip the 20 second wait time orcas normally have to slow down and instead warp/align in about 10 seconds.

Orca pilot has to enable it for fleet use using the button next to its name on the unified inventory.

Corp roles no longer have any role in accessing the storage spaces of ships.